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'John Carter' Fans Petition Disney For Sequel

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By Corwin Neuse Mar 15, 2012 12:18PM
According to MTV News, fans of the recently released, summarily forgotten "John Carter" are already petitioning Disney to make a sequel. Normally studios wait to see if a film will be successful or not to decide such things, but whatever.

So far, the movement's Facebook page has garnered over 1,800 members, seemingly signifying that a potential "John Carter II" could make at least $23,600. (Note: said figure is based on our completely unfounded assumption that the average theater ticket costs $12.50.) Will Disney be able to ignore such staggering, monumental profits? Only time will tell.

Meanwhile, "John Carter I"—as it presumably will come be called the future—has collected a meager $35 million domestically, and $106 million (and counting) around the world. Which puts it only $150 million in the red, at least as of right now. However, those figures leave out the countless millions Disney spent marketing the cinematic disaster. So the film has probably lost a lot more than that. Anyway, has any unprofitable movie ever garnered a sequel? We suppose if the producers of "Atlas Shrugged, Part I" can go forward with their plans for that franchise, anything is possible.
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Mar 14, 2013 12:27PM
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John Carter is truly one of Disney's best produced films. It is nearly flawless. The problem was in the terrible marketing. I personally prefer John Carter over Star Wars and (the horrendous!) Avatar. The movie did generate a profit even though it fell below expectations.30 million dollars is still a decent profit. I think Disney should forge ahead and make John Carter: The Gods of Mars and actually give this franchise some decent marketing. This is a great movie and deserves to be resurrected. Bring back Andrew Stanton and all the cast! John Carter is the best sci-fi movie in years!!! Shame on Disney for turning its back on it !
Mar 9, 2013 5:48PM
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It's so pathetic when pundits get it THIS wrong. Even the goons at Disney claim that they only spent $1m on advertising "John Carter"--which is absolutely nothing for what was meant to be a big budget popcorn flick. (Compare that to all the annoying ads we've been seeing for "Oz" this last few weeks that really cost them multi-millions). One year later and fans are still celebrating Andrew Stanton's amazing masterpiece which flew off of store shelves to the tune of $70m worth of US sales in a SINGLE DAY last June 5. Disney has grossed well over $600m on this film (and that's just as of last August and doesn't account for sales through Christmas 2012). When is the SEC going to investigate them for lying about losses when, by their own admission, they garnered record profits last year? Don't believe the BS the studio spread to cover their financial misdeeds---"John Carter" is the best time you'll ever spend watching an adventure flick!
Mar 20, 2012 8:47PM
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I went to this movie with my 85 year old mother and 36 year old son and we all loved it.  Sure, it wasn't 'The Tree of Life' thought provoking, but so what?  Sometimes it's just fun to go to a movie, forget your life for a couple of hours, and watch something fun.  I thought there was a lot of humor in it, which kept it from taking itself too seriously.  Honestly,  people should just stop listening to critics and judge for themselves!
Mar 20, 2012 12:49PM
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I've seen the movie twice, both times in IMAX 3D. The second time I treated a friend's entire family to it because I enjoyed it so much the first time that I felt they needed to see it in the theater. This was a well done adaptation of "A Princess of Mars". And that is because it was done by a fan. It's a movie that deserves to be seen and be successful. And it deserves at least one sequel.

 

But as others have said, the marketing was abysmal! What did Disney spend that $100 million on? How do you not use the line "From the creator of Tarzan and the director of 'Finding Nemo' and 'WALL-E' comes a film about..."? Or highlight that the story is a century old and inspired many of the sci-fi stories and movies of today. "This is the story that started it all...". But the negative press on the budget didn't help. And yet that never seems to affect Michael Bay movies from earning money hand over fist.

Mar 20, 2012 11:14AM
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As a 56 year old ER Boroughs fanI thought the movie was great.  Hell watching the heroine alone was worth the $10 to see it in 3D.  I would see a sequel in a heartbeat.  Its sad that people are so mentally challenged, that they cannot follow a movie plot with a few flashbacks and are incapable of connecting the past with the present...they probably still write with crayons too.   I feel Disney did a very poor job of marketing.  I knew the subject matter, but I am sure, most potential viewers were turned off by the trailers and the commercials, not realizing the interesting subject matter.  They needed to put into context as another commenter suggested...from the man who brought you Tarzan, and I would add  "in the vein of H.G. Wells."   I hope this movie will find a following on DVD and inproved profits.  I agree that a lot of critics are predisposed to like or hate a movie.  This reviewer was in the latter group.  It goes to show why he is a reviewer.  Little imagination and it appears, a fairly bitter outlook. 
Mar 20, 2012 10:47AM
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I just saw John Carter with my wife and 15 yr old son and 12 year old daughter.  We all enjoyed it.  THey probably could have done a better job advertising it with some of the action scenes and the romantic scenes.  All in all, a great movie, quite entertaining.
Mar 20, 2012 10:36AM
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I usually judge a movie by the trailer and the reviews and let it fall by them as it's my money. By a lot of the writers here, and those that agree. that strategy fell short this time. There's apparently a lot of informed opinion here.  Whether or not the movie was a critical success, I could care less about what we know about Mars now than the phony science in 2012.   AND FOIDAMAW--The first Star Trek movie opened to mixed reviews--not sure of their receipts--but it became a series.

Mar 20, 2012 9:10AM
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I enjoyed the movie thoroughly--saw it twice !!  I read all of the Martian Series by ER Burroughs many years ago, and I thought that Disney captured the book very well.  I'm hoping for a sequel.  The gal who played Dejah Thoris was perfect for the role:  beautiful, strong, smart and spirited.  And John Carter grew on me as the movie progressed, so I'd like to see him develop the character even more.  I hate hearing that the movie wasn't a financial success, but I hope that Disney doesn't give up on it.  I can't wait to by the DVD.
Mar 20, 2012 7:11AM
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I thought it was OK...the FX were certainly great but overall I think Disney and many people commenting here really don't understand the core Sci-Fi audience. I don't know how many of you know this, but sci-fi films don't have an automatic wide appeal across demographics, certainly not in the way a comedy or a good spy film has...if you don't entice the bulk of the core sci-fi movie crowd - you are going to fail, simple as that. Who is that core sci-fi crowd? ? Men, between the ages of 18 and 45. - I have a B.A in Cinema Studies, I actually studied these things.

 

The problem is that this feels like a Disney film, through and through, it may appeal to plenty of 9 and 10 year olds, and some mainstream adults who are fans of the books but you are not going to get the majority of hardcore sci-fi buffs. The lead is a beach-body toned pretty boy - obviously designed to pull in a female audience, which, honestly - most women (notice I said most - so if you are a woman and liked this film, don't start ranting) could care less about seeing a sci-fi film based on a completely absurd storylne and basically starring a male calendar model and the core male sci-fi crowd, they want something that at least seems plausible on some level...and a hero who they can identify with - this film fails on both those counts.

 

Yes, plenty of films have absurd storylines but women and sci-fi buffs are more likely to see a sci-fi film with at least a small nugget of "possibility" to hang their collective suspension of disbelief on for two hours... say films about an alien invasion or some intergalactic war "In a galaxy far, far away" - the whole concept of people and aliens running around on Mars during the civil war is just too ridiculous for the times we live in. Absurdity can often be mitigated if you place the film in a distant place or time that is far in the future or thousands of years in the past - but here, no hope. Supernatural films about vampires, ghosts and such - at least have the advantage of positioning the story worlds as "secret worlds" - hidden from most normal humans.

 

Look, the books are great but as far as sci-fi goes, they were written for a different society and different time - these specific stories just don't translate well for the modern sci-fi film fan - sorry, but they just don't. Bottom line, bring in the core sci-fi fans and you will likely get them AND a decent percentage of general moviegoers - but when you go out and TRY to make a blockbuster sci-fi by throwing in elements that you think will appeal to EVERYONE, you end up getting none of them... 

 

You want an example of a film that appeals to the hardcore Sci-fi crowd and will make money EVEN if the critics pan it - the upcoming Ridley Scott film - Prometheus - This film IS specifically targeted at the hardcore sci-fil crowd, they will all go see it no matter what and in the process, plenty of mainstream movie fans will get drawn in from the hype...

 

 

 

 

 

Mar 20, 2012 3:22AM
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I under stood the story i really like it it's science fiction you go with it not against it.Princess of mars is a very old classic book.The male was too small and the female was to old for the part.Disney should really know teen agers are the real box office makers.But i still enjoyed it i hear a 100 million on costumes the most ever on a movie.They thought it would be a hit with a 2 an 3 in the future.
Mar 20, 2012 3:09AM
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As usual, the article's AUTHOR, looks down on things he doesn't understand. His original ignorance of the entire JC series was evident in his initial review of the movie. Not bothering to do any research, of course HE was going to be disappointed in the movie. It was apparent his mind was 'made-up' before even viewing the film. The film was excellent! The move tries to show as much back-story as possible of Carter to explain his military background & skills (especially with a blade). The challenges he faces while coming to terms of being on a different planet. And his eventual understanding he is actually on Mars AND in the past. Perhaps it would be best if this author picked-up a book now and then to expand his understanding of the genre.
Mar 19, 2012 11:42PM
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This is an awful movie. I went with my girlfriend and her son, and both of them wanted to leave in the middle of the movie but I made them stay. My bad. We should have left. The acting was awful and the flashback scenes made no sense. Bad movie with a boring if not typical plot.


Mar 19, 2012 11:24PM
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Saw JOHN CARTER (of Mars) this past Sunday and it was a fun romantic adventure that topped all of the STAR WARS prequels and I hope the people overseas save it for the sequel that would tell the most interesting part of the original trilogy's story- how Carter defeats the corrupt religious tyranny enslaving his new home world and unites the planet.

A fun flick.

Up the money-fixated critics!



Mar 19, 2012 11:13PM
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I thought it was a good movie. It's
 hard to recreate the feel of a book that was written close to 100 years ago and adapt it to today expectations. ERB wrote some great scifi before anyone even knew what scifi was! Look at it that way when you view the movie.
Mar 19, 2012 9:55PM
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I read the eBook, "A Princess of Mars", which is the backdrop for the movie and eagerly await its release on DVD. Hope there's a sequel. Movie critics are for the gullible and fickle and never pay them much mind.
Mar 19, 2012 9:26PM
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Don't make it look like Star Wars and I'll be interested. 
Mar 19, 2012 8:40PM
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Hollywood wrecks another fantasy/sci-fi series? Wow, that never happens...
Mar 19, 2012 8:31PM
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the movie was awesome. Perhaps they should have waited another week or two and not just but it up right next to the Lorax. Someone really dropped the ball with promotion. I am seeing more ads now then prior to the movie. Movie was great, it was promoted terribly.

Mar 19, 2012 8:29PM
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The JC series of books (11) are amazing and I grew up on them and Tom Corbett and Rick Blaine.  There have been one or two previous attempts to make a John Carter movie, both total flops not making their cost back.  I've waited 50 years for a good rendition of JC and had high hopes of a Disney production.  The movie was ok, and the failure was on the part of the screenwriter to properly fill in the audience in the background of JC, how he was a warrior, and that Mars, the Greek God of War, was his touchstone.  He didn't fight some apparition appearing in a cave to get to Mars, in the book he was dying and reached out (literally) to his touchstone, Mars, and was transported to the Red Planet.  If the audience was properly 'briefed' as to JC's background his appearance on Mars, and his warrior like behavior when he got there, would have given his character more credibility and believability.  I totally fault the writer for missing the essence of the character.  I'm a wanna-be screenwriter so I do know something about which I write here.  That said, I do hope there's 10 more sequels!  You rock Edgar Rice!!

Mar 19, 2012 7:36PM
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I really enjoyed this movie. As a boy I read all of the Burroughs books and series; but the John Carter were the best. The recreation of Barsoom and its many citizens was outstanding. Sadly the next two books in the series Gods of Mars and Warlord of Mars were probably the best of the series. I agree with some of the other comments that dropping Mars from the title was big mistake as well as missing a tag line opportunity " from the man who gave you Tarzan" or something to that effect. The problem with the movie's success is due more to marketing than production
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