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Pazz & Jop Comments 2011

By Xgau Jan 20, 2012 6:04AM

St. Vincent: Strange Mercy (4AD)

Adele and Gaga watch your backs, lest she take art-rock pop ("Cheerleader," "Dilettante," "Cruel") ***

 

The Weeknd: House of Balloons (XO download)

If coming leaves your penis feeling that bad, fella, remember that they're not called narcotics for nothing ("Wicked Games," "House of Balloons/Glass Table Girls") ***

 

Adele: 21 (XL/Columbia)

Part of me likes how many albums this proud white-soul normal has sold, but the part that likes fast ones wins ("Rolling in the Deep," "Rumour Has It") **

 

Drake: Take Care (Cash Money/Universal Republic)

Musical docudrama proves conclusively that having too much money is bad for you, so how come no one gets the point? ("Make Me Proud," "Headlines") **

 

Girls: Record 3: Father, Son, Holy Ghost (True Panther/Fantasy Trashcan)

Phil Spector overstated his feelings too, and look where it got him ("Honey Bunny," "Magic") **


Wye Oak: Civilian (Merge)

Rising into exultation, fading into doubt ("Holy Holy," "Civilian") **

 

Fleet Foxes: Helplessness Blues (Sub Pop)

Darker and more socially conscious than their escapist admirers or their ideological detractors are equipped to notice ("Helplessness Blues," "Someone You Admire") *

 

The Black Keys: El Camino (Nonesuch)

With advice from Master of All Soundscapes Danger Mouse, they construct a loud blooze-rawk one, complete with song outlines ("Lonely Boy," "Run Right Back") *


 

292Comments
Jan 24, 2012 3:21AM
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Well, Tesfaye covered "Dirty Diana" because he doesn't like sluts.  He likes virgins.
Jan 24, 2012 3:14AM
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I had absolutely no clue the Weeknd's third mixtape opened with a cover of "Dirty Diana", but I love that even more than how ridiculous Thursday was. I'm starting to almost, you know, dig the guy -- but only because that ****'s crazy.
Jan 23, 2012 11:22PM
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Maybe depressive albums don't inspire one to get out and vote. 
Uh-oh.
Jan 23, 2012 10:43PM
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I spent a lot of time comparing PnJ results with my metacritic file, and posted what I came up with on my blog tonight. In all the years I've been doing this, the PnJ voters usually came up with results that were slightly smarter, more balanced, and often more inspired than what I collected (except that I always found a lot more jazz), but never by the margins I see this year. I suspect that a big part of the reason is that PnJ appears later: not only does that help pick up November releases that never make the early polls, it gives people a chance to test their ideas against other published lists. Other than that, I just don't know. Maybe the new Voice editor figured out a way to jam the ballot boxes. Maybe depressive albums don't inspire one to get out and vote.


Jan 23, 2012 7:51PM
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Re Father, Son, Holy Ghost ...

What I like about the band Girls is that they’re not afraid to be really really bad. The album starts out with upbeat songs, they lift melodies from the Beach Boys and Deep Purple (quite possibly in the same song), they sing about death without irony or distance or anything but despair and play it fast, and it works, for the most part. Then everything slows down with the unfortunately titled “Vomit” - over six minutes of longing, but it works. OK, so at this point it’s time to get back to the upbeat, but it turns out that the next song (correctly titled “Just a Song”) will keep things slow and quiet, and not only that, its repeated lines are “It seems like nobody’s happy now/It feels like nobody’s happy now” and this song is also over six minutes long. That’s thirteen minutes of slow, slow music that ends in despair. Then comes “Magic” and it's back to having fun, and now I’m thinking those thirteen minutes are part of the whole, perhaps the bridge needed to let the album coast to a close. But no. The next song is called “Forgiveness” but I’m not in a charitable mood because the pace has slowed again. I would call it a mini-disaster except that it’s eight minutes long, and so I remove the mini part. At this point I could shut the thing off and try to get happy again. The last two songs are pensive, and just OK.

Except that after three or four listens I find myself skipping the eight minutes of “Forgiveness” and now those last two songs are better than just OK, and everything flows, even those slow thirteen minutes in the middle. Cut out one song and it’s a very good album. And I just like the fact that they take risks. 
Jan 23, 2012 7:50PM
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For some reasons I have cave paintings on the mind when I think of you.  Can't imagine why.
Jan 23, 2012 7:38PM
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Chinese Zodiac stuff. Now and forever. Happy New Year. (Go-HAY-fah-CHOY.)

"Cave painting," indeed.
Jan 23, 2012 7:27PM
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I have thumbed up every single Milo post today, which is odd, because recognizing him had become so contingent on seeing his cave painting picture.  So I was like "who's that guy?  I like him."
Jan 23, 2012 7:24PM
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It's debatable whether 80 minutes of a guy talking should be eligible for a music poll, as comedy records are pretty different from musical ones in form and function,

It's debatable whether 80 minutes of a guy rapping over sampled music from other people should be eligible for a music poll, as rap records are pretty different from real musical ones in form and function.


(Uh, for the folks who seem to be getting all worked up, it's a satirical conter-example.)

Jan 23, 2012 7:11PM
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I assume that Matos put Louis 2nd behind Paul Simon because he enjoyed it more than anything in his iTunes besides Paul Simon.  It's debatable whether 80 minutes of a guy talking should be eligible for a music poll, as comedy records are pretty different from musical ones in form and function, but I doubt there were any ulterior motives at play.  My only real problem with it is that I think Shameless and Chewed Up might be slightly better.  But holy cow, I don't know that anyone in music has matched that guy for sheer awesomeness produced over the past 5 years.  I've got a lot of catching up to do in the music sphere, though.
Jan 23, 2012 6:40PM
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the Louis C.K. album is pretty funny btw; remind me in three months to play it again
Jan 23, 2012 5:52PM
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There ain't no help, the Cavalry stayed home

There it is boys and girls. Whatcha gonna do about it?

Jan 23, 2012 5:44PM
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Tonight's listening: Johnny Otis Rhythm and Blues Caravan, The Complete Savoy Recordings.  Courtesy of the recommendation of Milo Miles.
Jan 23, 2012 5:22PM
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is Louis K pazz or jop.  Isn't that the criteria for the list?

It's a rekkid of sound. You put it on. You play it. It makes noise. It's not a painting, a book, a play, a movie, a dance or a multi-media performance piece. If you become a music Inquisitor, then the question arises: how much music does a rekkid have to have on it before you don't burn it at the stake? Two songs? A little playing on half the cuts? A bit of music every track?


If I'd ever run across a new, no-question-classical recording that gripped me as hard as any record I'd heard that year, and one that had clear potential to affect a wide audience, it would have gone on my Pazz and Jop ballot, not as a "protest," but because I would argue it belonged there. (The finest Beethoven recording of the year, unless there was some miraculous audience-catnip innovation about it, would not belong.)

Jan 23, 2012 4:28PM
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good critics change their minds.  I'm not sure that's healthy all the time (and neither does he, I'm sure) but re-thinking your position is not such a bad thing. 
I was probably thinking of Chuck Eddy's ethos on the matter, who takes that position as far as one can go. He's great that way - he recently posted his P&J ballot, and someone asked him which ones he'd changed his mind about since he voted a few weeks prior. I seem to recall he gave some answers.
Jan 23, 2012 4:14PM
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Like Freaky Friday, except with bloggers.
Jan 23, 2012 4:13PM
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I'm not saying it's bad!  I'm just saying we sort of switched places, which is interesting.
Jan 23, 2012 4:07PM
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I think I was warm to the new ****ed Up before Michael posted his review, but he was warmer than I was at the time. Then I wound up voting for it in P&J and he didn't.

Like I said, excellent in pieces, not as a whole.  Much like the last Arcade Fire album (with talent differential factored in).

 

Jason once told me that good critics change their minds.  I'm not sure that's healthy all the time (and neither does he, I'm sure) but re-thinking your position is not such a bad thing.   Certainly, my take on the Weeknd changed with each successive mixtape.

Jan 23, 2012 4:05PM
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I think I was warm to the new ****ed Up before Michael posted his review, but he was warmer than I was at the time.  Then I wound up voting for it in P&J and he didn't.
Jan 23, 2012 4:04PM
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Resisting urge to paste the usually astute Tatum's review of House of Balloons only because I still owe him for Cartagena! (Maybe F-cked Up too, or was that Joey?)
That is exactly what I'm talking about.  You go, Brad. 
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Starting in 1967, Robert Christgau has covered popular music for The Village Voice, Esquire, Blender, Playboy, Rolling Stone, and many other publications. He teaches in New York University's Clive Davis Department of Recorded Music, maintains a comprehensive website at robertchristgau.com, and has published five books based on his journalism. He has written for MSN Music since 2006.

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