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Mates of State

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By Xgau Nov 22, 2011 5:16AM

Mates of State: Team Boo (Polyvinyl '03)

Music box. Hurdy-gurdy. Pinball gallery. Turning point of silent movie. Between-innings entertainment at a minor-league ballpark. E Street pseudoclassical. Even, almost, ? and the Mysterians. That’s how pop history is conceived by Kory Gardner. Words aren't quite irrelevant‑-cf. "This is the whiner's bio," or "Set the rocks on fire." But they are ancillary. B PLUS

 




Mates of State: Re-Arrange Us (Barsuk '08)

Alternia knows two things about this duo: raw biography and raw sound. Married, two kids, publicly affectionate on stage; so tuneful they embarrass coolsters who think babies are icky, but also, due to how hard Kory Gardner pumps her organ and John Hammel meets his match, energetic, rendering the tunes forgivable. And right, sometimes their hooks are sugary enough to give me a tummyache too. But for Gardner to devote herself to piano as Hammel quiets down doesn't justify the consensus diagnosis of, eeuw, domesticity. Musical symptoms just aren't specific enough. Instead one must refer to those supposedly unmusical carriers of specificity, the words. Seldom anything special in the past, now they add up to a painful, unresolved song sequence about a couple who buy a biographically verifiable dream house and then hit the rocks as definitely the husband and possibly the neglected wife seek sexual solace elsewhere. So no, Pitchfork guy, you can't call "Blue and Gold Print" a lullaby just because it's slow and invokes the kiddies. No, Pop Matters guy, you can't praise the "The Re-Arranger"'s arrangement without noting that one thing getting rearranged is lives. Pop hooks deployed to keep up a good front are too complicated for tummyaches. Not heartaches, though. A MINUS

 

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Nov 25, 2011 10:19AM
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Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukah to everyone.

 

Nov 25, 2011 9:17AM
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Unless Clown DJ was using his real name, in which case I apologize to not only him but his father Buffoon and mother Floozy.
Wouldn't you know, "Clown DJ" is an inside joke whose inception I could explain via a boring personal anecdote--but I won't. :) WE'RE ALL THE SAME HERE, PEOPLE.

Suffice it to say, the moniker fits the man.
Nov 25, 2011 9:12AM
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By "moral lives" do you mean a moral perspective that informs or guides their work? Or are you actually referring to actions these people took on a daily basis while living their lives?

He meant the first one. This was a source of much confusion a while back, and I hope it will clear up for good.
Nov 25, 2011 4:42AM
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ClownDJ:

Tuan emphasizes the importance of the sympathetic imagination in developing morals and describes the "moral lives" of three thinkers particularly inspirational to him (Wittgenstein, Iris Murdoch and Simone Weil).

By "moral lives" do you mean a moral perspective that informs or guides their work? Or are you actually referring to actions these people took on a daily basis while living their lives?

 

The latter seems highly unlikely so I'm now presuming that moral perspective is what you were asking about all along.

 

Yes? No?

Nov 25, 2011 4:17AM
Nov 25, 2011 1:53AM
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Feels like spring.  Delicious.

Continued here is my Funeral Advent calendar.

5. Day 6, track 6, "Crown of Love"

Each half of Funeral begins with a love song, but whereas the happy couple of "Tunnels" escapes into themselves from their parents and their world, the devastated lover of "Crown of Love" snuffs out not-within-him sparks and shrugs off not-upon-him hands lest his mother witnesses his inner turmoil in this waltz of despair.  "They say it fades if you let it," begins the song, but the narrator obviously doesn't want to let it, sadly pleading "If you still want me/Please forgive me" as guitar comes in on the chorus.  As Pallett's strings flow over the second verse, he demands a straight answer, but after a cymbal crashes dramatically a verse later, the song blooms while our narrator laments the straight answer he received, flowers growing on the grave of their old love, taken down from something eating him just like a cancer.

Also like "Tunnels," this song blossoms into a sonic goal, transcending after Win screams a second time, "Your name is the only word that I can say!"  Maybe he won't let it fade, but at least he seems excited by the prospect of being hopelessly in love.  By the end of the songs the strings are joyfully chasing each other in circles.  At the end of the song, the pains of love keep growing, and this doomed fellow is thinking that's just lovely.
Nov 25, 2011 12:23AM
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Let me try this again with Google's URL shortener (damn MSN):

Friends, here's a scan of the cover to Funeral Dress II if you want it for your iTunes library: http://goo.gl/azO3C

Happy Thanksgiving!

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Nov 25, 2011 12:23AM
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Does the "moral lives" term come from William James? "The Moral Philosopher and the Moral Life" (1891)?  I have never read William James. 
Tom: I think I actually snagged this term from "Morality and Imagination" by the geographer Yi-Fu Tuan (much more approachable than James). Tuan emphasizes the importance of the sympathetic imagination in developing morals and describes the "moral lives" of three thinkers particularly inspirational to him (Wittgenstein, Iris Murdoch and Simone Weil). I love Tuan's thinking but his style is so gentle that it proceeds quickly from tonic to tranquilizing (he has the decency to keep his books short, though). Since I find much of what he says pretty consistent with what I've gleaned from Christgau, I figured this perspective might gain greater readability from a bit of that rock and roll vigor. Which seems like a win/win.
Nov 25, 2011 12:15AM
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I just read, vis a vis Tom Hull's Rhapsody Notes Turkey Shoot remix, Jim DeRogatis' own Turkey Shoot column, which I found pretty lame.  Admittedly, I'm not a big fan of JDeR to begin with, but the selection process for his bottom ten, arrived at mostly by singling out disappointments from artists he basically likes, resulted in an overwhelmingly uninteresting list.  Also, not only aren't most of the records picked that bad (many B+ range for me), but most of the artists aren't that great to begin with anyway (does anyone really expect great things from Coldplay?  really?).  Much preferred reading Tom's list for the second time, but that goes without saying. 

 

When an critic says an album disappoints him/her on a personal level, be very suspicious.  I think you can make a lot of bad calls by putting too much focus on artists that "mean" a lot to you -- overrating things that pull your sentimental strings, disappointed by things that falter slightly.  Better to approach everything on as equal of terms as you can get.  It's helped me anyway.  It's something I hope to master better in the future.     

Nov 25, 2011 12:05AM
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I can see that reading of the back-and-forth that originated with Clown BUT his first comment was innocent enough, if poorly worded.

Well, with some of us language-high-strung types, that can be the KOD. That, and I've got a thing about internet anonyimosity. Especially hyuk-hyuk personas that both suggest and screen buried aggression. Unless Clown DJ was using his real name, in which case I apologize to not only him but his father Buffoon and mother Floozy.


So, okay, whole thing's recast for me.


(BTW-- My initial  "boring personal anecdote" remark was what they call in the trade an "inside joke," which in this case can only be explained by a boring personal anecdote, all of which I have sworn off forever in EW.)

Nov 24, 2011 11:53PM
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Liam: Fantabulous points.  Real world lurking is definitely cast in a more insidious light, but I've never seen it used online in such a way.  I suppose you could, though.  Boring PCer I am (elevate me later...), I'll agree and say that even if the negative connotations aren't meant or in mind, they're carried with.

And thanks for the Funeral compliment.  Hopefully tonight's will be up within two hours.  It'd be earlier, but I had dinner with my immediate family, my mom's parents, and another of their grandchildren (about half a year my senior).  Tomorrow I'll be getting together with some of my high school friends.  So expect "Crown of Love" in just a bit.
Nov 24, 2011 11:39PM
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Moonshine Music's Dance Hits U.K. seems to be a very "quiet" pressing compared to Handrazer from the same label, same year.  Not sure why.  Same for Wir's The First Letter from 1991....need to turn that one up more than normal.

 

Current listening: Sun Ra: Lanquidity (Evidence)

Nov 24, 2011 11:37PM
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Joey, I agree, but for me "lurk" has negative connotations. Macquarie dictionary: to lie in concealment, as in ambush; remain in or about a place secretly or furtively. So I think it implies the purpose of doing harm, which was the context I was using it in. If, as I'm assuming, you were responding to my post, I didn't mean to imply that there's anything wrong with lurking here in the sense of just reading and not posting--I did it for what, a year? However, obviously, there are many other things that people can do online, many of them malevolent. I reckon that befits the word "lurker" better, at least in a formal sense. All of which is a long way of saying that I agree with Jason.
Hi, btw. Been enjoying your stuff about Funeral.
Nov 24, 2011 11:19PM
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I said "community" three times in that post.

Ewwwww.
Nov 24, 2011 11:08PM
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I've been surfing the net half my life, and someone being a lurker is not, by any stretch of the imagination, negative.

Also, calling a poster a lurker would be incorrect.

A lurker in a community is someone who has not contributed.  Either they are silently appreciating the content of the other posters or are in the process of sizing everything up before diving into the community.  I think I waited about a month before posting on the EW blog.  During that time period, I was a lurker.

Sometimes waiting and getting to know a community before posting is a very, very positive thing, so in a way lurking can be quite positive.
Nov 24, 2011 11:00PM
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Ah, right, got it. Thanks!
LB (is it ok that i call you that?)
Might as well call me my real name, which is also Liam. Having had like six years of cybersafety sh!t drummed into me at school I'm (unnecessarily?) wary of disclosing details about myself online. But hey, this place seems pretty damn safe--I think genuine lurkers would have other priorities. (btw, thanks for asking, I can't imagine why anyone would be offended by having the numbers dropped from their name but I appreciate the courtesy)
In other news, The Lives of Others is at least as good as Tom Hull's review suggests.
Nov 24, 2011 9:57PM
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how do you do that reply-box thing? 
LB (is it ok that i call you that?), when you are typing in the Post field there is a quote box in the upper right (right next to the emoticon symbol). Click on that and it will start a "Quoted text" box. Press return within the Quoted Text box to leave the box and go back to normal text. You can also do bold and ital using the same menu.
Nov 24, 2011 9:52PM
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Are we international today or what?!

 

And Boy Howdy, Japadooronron. Don't be such a stranger. Glad you're back, your grade comments are just as entertaining as ever.

 

Chav, chav, chav, chav, chav, chav and, uh, chav.

Nov 24, 2011 9:51PM
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Rhapsody's unavailable outside the US I think, otherwise I'd subscribe.
I dunno about Ireland, but in Australia you can get it through a company called Sonos when you buy their controller-thing, which is a bit like an iPod touch. 
Looking forward to the show!
Edit: how do you do that reply-box thing? Every time I copy and paste something in it appears as normal text...
Nov 24, 2011 9:34PM
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Finally got around to the Miranda Lambert album (these things take longer in Japan, where country music has no traction--except Taylor Swift, who is more or less considered an "idol" here). So far, except for "Baggage Claim," I find the uptempo numbers forced and obvious, as if she were trying to duplicate the spontaneity of the rockers on her previous records and which made her rep. Of course, "duplicating spontaneity" is an oxymoron. On the other hand, I don't find the slower songs syrupy or sentimental at all, which is how they struck me before. They seem heartfelt and extremely well expressed, in particular "Oklahoma Sky," which gets by on the specificity of its POV. It's not exactly Iris Dement, but it's not something everybody could sing as convincingly.
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Robert Christgau

Starting in 1967, Robert Christgau has covered popular music for The Village Voice, Esquire, Blender, Playboy, Rolling Stone, and many other publications. He teaches in New York University's Clive Davis Department of Recorded Music, maintains a comprehensive website at robertchristgau.com, and has published five books based on his journalism. He has written for MSN Music since 2006.

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