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Rihanna/David Guetta

Good Old Rock and Roll, 2011 Style

By Xgau Dec 23, 2011 4:32AM
Rihanna: Talk That Talk (Deluxe Edition) (Def Jam)
Musically, this is pop without shame‑-her hookiest and most dance-targeted album, decorated with a thoughtful assortment of suitably titillating blats, noodles, dubs, groans, hiccups, boom-booms, cut-ups, speed-ups, xx samples, and spoken-word bits. Lyrically, it celebrates the relationship of sex to love rather than pain, dipping predictably on the heart songs and theme statements that slow down the second half, especially on the standard edition. Associating carnality with love as I do, I prefer it to her earlier albums because I find its many porny moments titillating. Sure Beyoncé is sexier in principle‑-I like smart girls, not bad girls, especially bad girls with a thing for worse men. But I believe in taking my titillation wherever it raises its spongy head. A MINUS

 

David Guetta: Nothing but the Beat (Astralwerks/Capitol)

In which the Frenchman who inflicted the Black Eyed Peas' "I Gotta Feeling" on a hapless America‑-brute! vulgarian! snailsucker! 'ho!‑-bids for chart success as if he needs to be more famous than he already is. All power synths and squirmy earworms, dated beats and neutered Snoop Dogg, it offends club sophisticates no less than living-room discophobes. But with four-on-the-floor dance music the nearest the actually popular pop world came to mindless rocking out in 2011, I only wish it had a few "I Gotta Feeling"s. Still, the two Nicki Minaj features come close, Taio Cruz does what he's sposed to for once, the will.i.am preachment makes its escapist statement, and neutering Snoop is fine with both me and the ASPCA. Front-loaded in this 13-track Americanski version--as a reward for their sophistication, the Europeans get to fatten up on excess instrumentals--it should slim down further by ditching the last two tracks and climaxing with the Jennifer Hudson love anthem "Night of Your Life," where it simulates the soul that elsewhere is so beside the point. B PLUS

 

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Dec 27, 2011 10:58AM
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Joe: All the best to you and your family for a happy, healthy 2012. And I second Walter's sentiment.
Dec 27, 2011 5:27AM
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Joe: thinking of my fellow music-geek-at-large in these times of hardship. take care, man.
Dec 26, 2011 10:02PM
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Sorry to hear the news, Joe.  May your memories give you strength.
Dec 26, 2011 8:01PM
Dec 26, 2011 7:57PM
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Condolences Joe.  My thoughts are with you during this trying time.
Dec 26, 2011 7:53PM
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Hi guys.  Thanks for the kind words and support concerning my Dad.  It helped, really.  My father passed away on Friday morning - at home per his wishes.  His obituary appeared in today's New York Times.  One thing I didn't include in the obit was Dad's love of classic country music, specifically Johnny Cash, George Jones and Merle Haggard.  I first heard Johnny Cash on Dad's original Sun albums, and "Sunday Morning Coming Down" was among his favorite things.  Another fave was George Jones' "He Stopped Loving Her Today" and I recall watching the CMAs with Dad in the early 80s when George Jones won the award for that song.  I remember laughing at Jones' sideburns but soon enough I was hooked on the voice.  Dad and I didn't agree on everything, especially when I was a younger man, but our mutual love of Cash and Jones was something special that I will always cherish.  Searching my collection for the right song to play at Wednesday's mass, I found the perfect record:  Johnny Cash - "There'll Be Peace in the Valley".  I miss you Dad and always will. 
Dec 26, 2011 7:41PM
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Oh, and Milo, thanks for the Roots of Doo Wop recommendation.  It came used from the UK, so I just got it a few days ago.  Wonderful stuff, and I only already had 8 of the 50 songs.  If people are into 40's and early 50's R&B, particularly some that is obviously influenced by Louis Jordan, you will love this.  It is out of print as far as I know, so I would be willing to put it up for people to get if someone could explain how to do that.
Dec 26, 2011 7:35PM
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God, I just read the Hadju review this morning.  What a waste of my time.  I knew enough to avoid Paglia, although I couldn't help myself and read a couple of paragraphs.  I noticed that Ken Tucker had a Letter to the Editor about the Paglia piece.  It was not complementary.

But are either of these worse than the review of Hermes' Love Goes to Buildings on Fire from a couple of weeks ago that basically never said if it was well written or actually interesting.  All it did was recount the scene the book was about.

It makes you appreciate it when Xgau gets the gig.
Dec 26, 2011 6:48PM
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For sure blog model is freely and more fun.

I don't know if I have some bad taste, exacerbate love for pop music or something like that, but I don't have a problem at all with Owl City. For me, his notorious last album is, at least, well produced, but everybody knows it's so childish that even my face turns red while I'm listening to one of his bloody playful compositions, which generally comes with some natural nonsenses. "Fireflies," for instance, I particularly think it's a well uplifting song, but with pretty random lyrics that makes even the most abstract musician proud of. But nonetheless, it's kid alike, so anybody won't take that seriously. I still think "Saltwater Room" was a damn beautiful song, even with these treated voices. I don't think he is some kind of plagiarist of Postal Service, also, as Pitchfork alarmed some time ago. He's just too much childlike. I don't think Ben Gibbard ever looked.

There's few or less differences between Unicorn Kid and Skrillex, for me, too. But the first one is so girlie and Sonic-ish, that makes me feel he's just a lovable pop gem while Skrillex looks like a modern sketchy vision of Rock'n'Roll electrified. But I dare to say the movements are the same new one: technologies, computers, superficiality and an edgy sense over every note. Dubstep is so confusing and mixed that our brains just leave it to our feets rather than understand it. So it's a really escapist thing, so loud and overacted that I wonder if there is some eloquence on it. In other words, I don't know if I cope or just think it's the sign of the incredible overpressure of our high-tech and "stressful" generation. So dubstep looks the perfect "pressure cooker" of today's feeling.

Cee-Lo Green made a really good album last year, for me, also. I even thought Xgau would speech something about it. The video of "**** You" was intriguing, with all those cartoons and flashy images - I nearly thought I was in some fast food in the USA, for real! His presentation on the Grammy Awards was amazing too, but Gwyneth surely was out of this world with that black dress and pinky earrings. The most fun moment of the award, although Arcade Fire astonishment sequence was moving.

P.S. 01: Nobody seems to have talked about "Watch n' Learn." I'm really digging it! It's too early to say It's my favorite, but it's close. "Farewell" comes in a good time after it. Just my favorite "settle down" moment.
Dec 26, 2011 5:38PM
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I just wonder what Greil Marcus and now the ghost of Paul Nelson did to deserve respective reviews from hitwoman Camille Paglia and sneermeister David Hajdu.
Dec 26, 2011 5:26PM
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DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER CATEGORIES THAT THEY WANT TO SUGGEST????
I'm not at all suggesting that anyone else follow suit, but I'll have lists of 10 best albums (overall) and singles, plus lists broken out by Regular Release Albums, EPs, bootlegs/ephemera, and reissues/oldies. Why? Because I'm all in this year.

PS Thank you Santa for the Bristol Sessions box set.
Dec 26, 2011 5:26PM
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As a twentynothing, I love Rob B's take on the matter.
Dec 26, 2011 5:22PM
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I dunno why, Greg, but I find that quaint and oddly comforting, in its way. Back in the day, we might have called that "getting pinned" or "going steady," but whatever - it still represents a kind of official, deliberate announcement of intent to be an item. Just because Facebook is a different and maybe more public forum doesn't make it in any way cheap. In fact, I've noticed the 20somethings I work with wait quite a while before making a relationship FBO - it's not a one-date-and-post kinda thing, they take that stuff seriously. Seems kind of cute - and kind of timeless - that announcing your relationship on Facebook carries the same historical weight as, say, wearing your boyfriend's varsity jacket back in the day (not that I had a varsity jacket for anyone to wear). La plus ca change... 
Dec 26, 2011 3:49PM
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Ann Powers has a timely piece up at NPR on sexuality in pop music that is an apropos counterpart to Bob's Rihanna review. http://goo.gl/rQexH

A small and relatively irrelevant point to the topic of pop music, but regarding current day relationships and technology, to which Powers' piece is contiguous, my 27 year old daughter and her live-in boy friend enlightened us at Christmas dinner yesterday that a monogamous relationship in their group is now known as an FBO relationship, standing for Facebook Official, signaling that both parties have acknowledged the committed nature of their relationship in their personal Facebook profiles.

 

What you do about your relationship status if you're not on Facebook was not explained, since it apparently never happens anymore.

Dec 26, 2011 2:12PM
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Hi Bob, are we getting one last Rock & Roll & before the end of the year? And I assume we can look forward to your year-in-review article in January?
I remember Bob said something about how if EMA got enough props at the end of the year, he'd consider taking her down in said year-in-review article.  And considering how highly she's scored with Pitchfork and......Rob Sheffield?????????????..., I'm thinking that might happen.  Considering that's an album I quite like, I'm eager to see it.
Dec 26, 2011 2:06PM
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Here to remind everyone that I'll be conducting the EW P&J 2011 poll.  Albums and songs will be voted on.  DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER CATEGORIES THAT THEY WANT TO SUGGEST????

The rules will be posted here and on my blog on January 1 (or very last on December 31).  Voting will close at midnight on the eighth (ie a minute after 11:59 pm on the seventh), and results will be posted perhaps three days later (I'll determine that date as we move closer to it).  Complete results with ballots and standings (including a section of albums and songs that received only one vote) will be posted on my blog.
Dec 26, 2011 1:18PM
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Hi Bob, are we getting one last Rock & Roll & before the end of the year? And I assume we can look forward to your year-in-review article in January?

(EDIT: I only ask because it's usually published by now. Is it just me or has Christgau been on fire this year with his long-form work?)

Dec 26, 2011 11:56AM
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Ann Powers has a timely piece up at NPR on sexuality in pop music that is an apropos counterpart to Bob's Rihanna review. http://goo.gl/rQexH
Dec 26, 2011 11:01AM
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It would be interesting, and probably impossible, to explore the links between the quality of Cee-Lo's music and the amount of energy devoted to non-musical ventures for making money.  The way the article portrays it, music is just one part--and a small part--of the capital strategy.  I'm not interested in (or compelled by) tired 'selling out' complaints, but rather in how the pursuit of something outside the realm of music-making might distract the artist. 

 

Then again, maybe Cee-Lo is just a mediocre musical talent, and that's all there is to be said on the topic.

Dec 26, 2011 10:09AM
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On another note-not going to contribute a top ten list to the Best of 2011 for

a logical reason-the great majority of what I listened to this year was not released in 2011.

But one cd besides the obvious Wussy's "Strawberry"that comes to mind is

the bonus material cd released in the same package as the Stones' remastered "Some Girls".

This stuff is damn good. A solid A- in my book. Of couse it was originally recorded in the 70's.

Check it out.

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Robert Christgau

Starting in 1967, Robert Christgau has covered popular music for The Village Voice, Esquire, Blender, Playboy, Rolling Stone, and many other publications. He teaches in New York University's Clive Davis Department of Recorded Music, maintains a comprehensive website at robertchristgau.com, and has published five books based on his journalism. He has written for MSN Music since 2006.

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