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Big Baby Gandhi

Smart Dumb Kid's Progress

By Xgau Apr 6, 2012 4:05AM

Big Baby Gandhi: Big Fucking Baby (free download)

Like his patron Heems, this Bangladeshi-American is from the part of Flushing "where the smart kids act dumb and the dumb kids act dumb." He just acts dumb in a smart way. You could say his lo-fi debut favors degraded rhythm samples and soprano voices, only from the boat-rocking "Been Around Ya Girl" to the deep-soul "Summertime Thing" to the Indian-children's-song-plus-keyboard(???)-loop "Woof Woof" you'd be missing a lot. The flow seems effortlessly idiomatic, only not South Asian idiomatic, whatever that would sound like besides Heems. The rhymes bespeak a brainy slacker with an analysis underway, only he's watched so much porn and heard so much hip-hop that he's dumber than need be about sex. Here he's all "she's chokin' just hopin' to provoke a nut," there he's telling her he was only kidding about that handjob. Figure by now he's here and there both. He is a kind of famous rapper, after all. A MINUS

 

Big Baby Gandhi: No1 2 Look Up 2 (free Greedhead mixtape)

"Terrorist with no turban/Lyricist with no sermon," he admits he'll be proud to graduate from college and with the help of two resourceful young beatmakers I never heard of cleans up his production like he's ready to go pro. But for all his "Get $$$," he hasn't quite managed it yet. He's still a kid getting his thoughts together one surprise rhyme at a time, weeding out enough sex and dope to make room for a holy Bollywood "Long Ass Intro," a law-abiding uncle who kept him out of the army, a joke he jacked from Fall Out Boy, and other evidence of grown manhood. A MINUS

 

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Apr 9, 2012 9:29PM
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Big F-cking Baby is too lo-fi for me, and I grew up on dubbed cassettes. But No1 2 Look Up 2 has the sonic intrigue to back up the many smart things he has to say about growing up nominally Muslim in New York. Gandhi is (or portrays) an egomaniac, but it's the kind of posing that one can grow out of, or else turn into a dialectic like his mentors do.
Apr 9, 2012 9:07PM
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Cam,

 

All you need is a couple of miracles to go along with your good deeds and you can be St. Cam, patron saint of obscure musics.

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22 ballots received for the 2003 singles poll. Thanks guys (plus one non-guy, hurrah!). I'm hoping to have results posted tomorrow night.
Apr 9, 2012 7:47PM
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OK, here is the high-kbps MP3 version of that barely released PM Dawn record mentioned below. I'll post a lossless link tomorrow for them that prefer that, but it's not storage-friendly.

http://goo.gl/UjRJp
Apr 9, 2012 6:58PM
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Wow, a Cyndi Lauper memoir is due this fall. Maybe we'll find out what the **** happened to her after She's So Unusual. Seriously, I want to know. Clearly something made her change her image and tune so significantly despite such success.
Apr 9, 2012 6:56PM
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Per Cyclops, I checked out a source from the Wiki page for Carrie Brownstein and this is what I found:

“Only because it seems so culturally important to be able to say who you are: I definitely identify as bisexual,” she says. “Every interesting person I’ve ever read about, sexuality’s all over the map for them. It never was clearly defined. I’ve always just kind of existed in that world of openness. But right now, in terms of the political climate, and with a number of young gay suicides, and with don’t ask don’t tell not being repealed, and with so many politicians still being so aggressively against gay marriage, it is hard not to at least identify in a way that lets people know, ‘It is OK whoever you are.’ It’s weird, because no one’s actually ever asked me. People just always assume, like, you’re this or that. It’s like, ‘OK. I’m bisexual. Just ask.’”

Here's the link: http://goo.gl/yzA5n

I love Sleater-Kinney so much--I think I saw them in concert more than any other band, and, more than that, feel so privileged to have done so. The first concert of there's I saw, for Dig Me Out, would've made a fan out of anyone--Corin blew the doors off First Avenue with her voice alone. Carrie instantly became my guitar god. Actually, she kind of still is. What a band.

Apr 9, 2012 6:12PM
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There's still a number of pizza outlets and casinos around the Billings, MT area named Little Big Man (or Little Big Men), dating from the time when the movie was filmed there. It was a serious cultural shot in the arm for MT.
Apr 9, 2012 5:01PM
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 Thanks for the tip(s) on Sterling, Bob.

 BTW, I liked your piece on Wild Flag very much, especially its analysis of Carrie Brownstein.  However,  AFAIK, Carrie has never publicly called herself anything other than bi and- based on her WikiP entry- she now seems to be a hetero who experimented when she was younger (per an interview cited but that I admit to not reading).  It appears that her sexual identity and its social or public presentation are more roles that she has slipped into and out of over the years.
 

Apr 9, 2012 3:06PM
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Cyclops: Great Sterlings: Holy Fire, Distraction., and Zietgeist with its great music-biz subplot. One of my PJ essays was based on Distraction. Holy Fire's better. Can't recommend these novels too highly. Since then he's pretty much fallen off a cliff, unfortunately.


Apr 9, 2012 3:03PM
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today's NY Times Book Review has an end essay by the wonderful Jonathan Lethem about his correspondence-frien​dship with the almost-as-wonderful (and now far less well-known) Thomas Berger --
 I've never read TB but younger volk who might like some idea of the man's imagination should check out the film Little Big Man from 1970.  If someone wished to say that it was the best American movie of the period 1960-1979, I wouldn't think less of them, though it wouldn't be my choice.
Apr 9, 2012 2:55PM
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Apropos of nothing: Showgirls is one of the greatest films of all time. 
 Dude!  Saw that one with a good friend on a Friday matinee the day it opened.  The opportunity to see EB topless for hours made it the obvious film event of '95.  I'm pleased to see that it continues to fascinate a larger and more diverse audience.
Apr 9, 2012 2:51PM
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Best American Novels, 1950-1999 (unorthodox, largely avant list from film theorist Steven Shaviro; includes Valley of the Dolls)
 This list looks interesting and it's neat for me that Chip Delany is on the list twice, as we had friends in common and I met him (nice guy, etc.) when I was 10 or so.
 OTOH, w/o reviewing every book on the list, my Spidey sense starts tingling at what appears to be a major underrepresentation of Jewish-American and Southern novels.  You know, kind of like doing a 19th century list and not mentioning any novelist from New England.
Apr 9, 2012 2:42PM
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Hay, guys, could you please, please, please check out my new song (as I totally love you, and respect your opinions! Smile)?! http://goo.gl/KW3f5 (It's, obviously, too short; I may add another verse or a bridge. I freeze halfway through; IDK why! Also, sorry for shakiness--I messed up a few times! Tongue out)

Edit: I notice now, I should add 'who will?' onto the last strum! Smile

Lyrics here:

Who Will Love You?

Verse 1 (A/G/D)

She threw on her coat,
And left on a vote,
I'll try to be nice next time.
She threw in her cards,
And put up her guard,
She'd rather be alone.
She gave me a shove,
And strangled a dove,
Oh, how will we get on?
She spat in my face,
And smashed up the place,
I'd rather be alone.

x2 Chorus (C/G/D/A)

I won't write you a love song,
Who will?
I won't play your loser,
Who will?

(Blend--C/G)

Verse 2 (A/G/D)

She cheated on me,
And did it with glee,
You girls leave me alone.
She never loved me,
And acted hasty,
In hanging up the phone.
What did I expect?
And how not have bet,
She'd treat me like a dog.
I'm sick of this song,
And dragging along,
**** her--she'll be alone.

(Blend--C/G)

x4 Chorus (C/G/D/A)

I won't write you a love song,
Who will?
I won't play your loser,
Who will?
Apr 9, 2012 2:36PM
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Isn't William Gibson science fiction? He may not have predicted computers, but he sure got them right early (before he knew how to operate one, I believe).
Also, I continue to pump Bruce Sterling.
 I've never read any of Sterling's fiction but thought that The Hacker Crackdown (1992) was a tremendous book.  It's now public domain thanks to the author; you can find a link for it on his WikiP page.
Apr 9, 2012 2:35PM
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No, I don't want to discuss camp much more, if at all. I only brought the Sontag up because (a it had been suggested that I had forgotten or did not know the concept of camp (b it was kinda fun to re-read. I'm hardly holding up Sontag as a paragon -- Bob and I seem to be about on the same page with her (esp. since she did so much to crap on her more subversive ideas later in her life). And try as I might I can't quite tell the ways that The Maltese Falcon is a campy "failure." But the big point is that she did argue, correctly and in detail, that not all kitsch is camp and that selecting the art that's good because it's awful requires sensitive tweaking.

So I was not rejecting what I consider bad bad music because I was not aware of the concept.

Here is the whole of Bob's Yaz sentence:
A tape-layered playlet does disfigure side one, but better godawful than bland, and before you complain about Vince Clarke's hackneyed take on modern romance you ought to remember that he only rejoined the human race a few months ago.
I think most folks would agree that not having anything about the "first rule of rock criticism" in there makes quite a difference. Indeed, as a general, stand-alone principle I certainly prefer yikes over snore.

In what more substantial, less time-wasting mode of listening did you hear Kay Huntington's album?


Wouldn't it be a violation of everything I've talked about if I had heard it? I accepted Bob's review that it was wretched refuse and not worth my time looking for. I mean, the thing was called Consumer Guide, right?


Apr 9, 2012 2:29PM
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Irene, if by "lively discussion," you mean "ripping a certain somebody a much-deserved new one"
No, I just meant lively discussion (though I do enjoy the latter). Keep up the good work, folks.
Apr 9, 2012 1:57PM
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I'm not gonna get into this camp thing too deep--an enormous amount on my plate, and I'm taking four days off next week. But I will say this. Sontag certainly introduced the concept to a wider audience including me and has many interesting things to say about it, including a beloved sentence I've quoted before: "Camp is a tender feeling." But she wasn't God (much less the Goddess). In fact, as a cultural critic she was both a mandarin and a snob, two concepts that aren't always as close as they are in her.
Apr 9, 2012 1:45PM
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"If you mean me, get some guts and just say so."

I actually did say so but in a (snaps) camp way that went undetected as "guts." It still had the intended effect - a move away from interweb griping towards augmenting my Must Read list.

But b!t(h, if you want to go up against a queen re: camp (still using Sontag?!?), I'm down. It'll have to wait 'til tomorrow night, though. Swamped today.

Two things, though:

1. "And that may be the first rule of kevin john rock criticism"

I actually stole it from Robert Christgau from his review of Yaz: Upstairs at Eric's (which he got wrong; solid A, that).

2. In what more substantial, less time-wasting mode of listening did you hear Kay Huntington's album? Don't tell me you came across it w/o Xgau's help.


Apr 9, 2012 12:19PM
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Snoop Dogg's new book, Rolling Words: A Smokable Songbook, is exactly what you think it is. 
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Starting in 1967, Robert Christgau has covered popular music for The Village Voice, Esquire, Blender, Playboy, Rolling Stone, and many other publications. He teaches in New York University's Clive Davis Department of Recorded Music, maintains a comprehensive website at robertchristgau.com, and has published five books based on his journalism. He has written for MSN Music since 2006.

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