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Cotton Mather/Oasis

Oh--You Mean Those Beatles

By Xgau Apr 13, 2012 5:37AM

Cotton Mather: Kontiki (Deluxe Edition) (Star Apple Kingdom)

Pieced together in 1997 from impulsively conceived, doggedly recorded scraps of DAT and four-track by Austin mastermind Robert Harrison and a Memphis tape wizard who loved how Big Star the band was, Cotton Mather's second album caught the attention of some British Beatles fanatics d/b/a Oasis, who brought them over to open and even generated some U.K. sales. While allowing his vocal resemblance to "John Lennon with a Southern accent and a head cold," Harrison's extensive notes don't cite the Beatles much even though "My Before and After" resembles "Ticket to Ride" more than its supposed inspiration "(Reach Out) I'll Be There" and "Private Ruth" echoes "For No One" straight up. Harrison is no more a genius than Noel Gallagher, so though the lyrics aren't spaced-out gibberish or obvious pap, they're unequal to the music‑-which definitely beats, for instance, the last three songs on the first Big Star album, and even more remarkable, kind of makes you appreciate Oasis. (N.B.: I'm recommending the Deluxe because it's new and much cheaper, not because I expect ever to listen to its alternates and new ones for anything except the research I presume is now complete.)  B PLUS

 

Oasis: Stop the Clocks (Sony BMG '06)

One of the many things I never got about this band was where the Beatles were. Where was the ebullience, the wit, the harmonies, God just the singing, and, uh, the songwriting? Cotton Mather made me understand that when Oasis say they love the Beatles they really mean they love the post-Help!, pre-Sgt. Pepper Beatles. Since that span encompasses Rubber Soul and Revolver, many would say tally ho, but (a) not me 'cause I love the Beatles start to finish and (b) only if you're writing songs as good as, uh, "We Can Work It Out." Instead Oasis, meaning loudmouth bro Noel Gallagher, write songs that resemble "We Can Work It Out" in thickened texture and momentum but not depth or charm, then add arena size in the swagger of the drums and the bigged-up vocals themselves. This band-selected best-of‑-two discs lasting 87 minutes, like an old-fashioned double-LP except it's only 18 tracks‑-capture their sonic moment as fully as any freelance music historian needs. A 2010 package repeats 11 of these songs and adds 16 others‑-too many, I say. Also, it omits the opening "Rock 'n' Roll Star." If ever there were guys whose message to the world is summed up by an opener called "Rock 'n' Roll Star," it's these bigheads. B PLUS

 

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Cyclops - why would that affect primarily guitar-rock and not other types of music?
Apr 13, 2012 6:45PM
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I think the Timberlake songs were on a 2002 album but were 2003 singles, which is why I threw them in.

I've never heard the original of "1985", but I love Richard Thompson's version. 

I didn't pick a number one but my favourite hook comes from "Improper Dancing": "Stop!" (music stops); "Continue!" (music continues).

Main song I was sorry I forgot was "The Seed" by the Roots.  I also didn't include anything from my man Jinx Lennon, because I thought his Twenty Beacons of Light songs were released in 2002 - turns out they came out in 2002 (I associated them with shows in 2002).  Main pick would have been "You Shouldn't Flip Someone's Head Up When Your Own Head's Flipped Up Too" (but he used a different word to "flip"). 
Apr 13, 2012 6:45PM
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Sorry this is late, here's my 2003 singles ballot, in alphabetical order (treating numbers as coming before letters):

  1. 1985 – Richard Thompson

  2. A Faster Gun – The Wrens

  3. Beer Run – Todd Snider

  4. Boys in the Band – The Libertines

  5. Crazy in Love – Beyoncé feat Jay-Z

  6. Cry Me a River – Justin Timberlake

  7. Danger! High Voltage – Electric Six

  8. Everyone Chooses Sides – The Wrens

  9. Gay Bar – Electric Six

  10. Hey Ya - Outkast

  11. Hopeless – The Wrens

  12. House of Jealous Lovers – The Rapture

  13. I Believe in a Thing Called Love – The Darkness

  14. Improper Dancing – Electric Six

  15. In da Club – 50 Cent

  16. Rock Your Body – Justin Timberlake

  17. She's White – Electric Six

  18. Tempted – Richard Thompson

  19. The Hardest Button to Button – The White Stripes

  20. This Boy is Exhausted – The Wrens



Apr 13, 2012 6:34PM
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My take on Big Star - No. 1 Record (can't find a hatch/pound key on my borrowed keyboard) is one of the best evocations of adolescence, notwithstanding the slightly creepy attempt to seduce an adolescent - inchoate rage ("Don't Lie to Me"), aimless exuberance ("In the Street"), careless/carefree bliss ("When My Baby's Beside Me").  Radio City is darker and harder to get into, not least because the catchiest song is near the end of side two.  But there's a logic to the structure - after all the intimations of just desserts and mortality ("You're gonna die!") the chiming guitars of "September Gurls" hit home all the more.  Sister Lovers I enjoy in all its forms, without seeking to parse it.  But unlike Cam I think there's a fourth Big Star album - I've always got a blast from the Posies-fuelled live comeback, Columbia.
Apr 13, 2012 6:14PM
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Re Oasis, I used to prefer them to Blur on general principles, but I've had no interest in listening to them since Morning Glory.  There's probably one great album between the first two.  I agree with the Dean and Joris (and everyone here) that the Beatles aren't the right comparison - they work best as a wall of sound ("Live Forever", my fave song of theirs) or as low key jokers ("She's Electric").  And the walls of sound on Definitely Maybe are preferable to those on Morning Glory - more organic, less overblown.  From Be Here Now they got even more overblown because of their alleged drug of choice, not one which is associated with the Beatles.
Apr 13, 2012 5:57PM
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Cam, Michael, the Auteurs were definitely under-appreciated.  Now I'm a Cowboy was an interesting career move - fast opener on side one, mid-tempo opener on side two, every other number a slow one, and a good one, including "Underground Movies".  After Murder Park was just as interesting, spiky and odd.  Must dig them out for a listen.
Apr 13, 2012 5:52PM
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So, I've looked over the transcript of Lil B's lecture at NYU, and all I have to say is, it was much better than the convocation Tony Kushner gave at my college.
Apr 13, 2012 4:58PM
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Liam -- I wonder how many people out there have heard "Underground Movies," which is my favorite Auteurs song. 
Apr 13, 2012 4:56PM
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The Auteurs, "Lenny Valentino"
Speaking of which, After Murder Park is on my list of best records never reviewed by the Dean.
Apr 13, 2012 4:52PM
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1. I always thought kids got into music for sex, but funny me.
2. You can like any of the three (and as Joey would say, there's only three) Big Star albums the most, I'm cool with that. I only hope that RJ Smith is already working on the lovely Alex Chilton bio that deserves to be written, and that Rhino finally gets its shitlist together and asks me to compile that career-spanning Chilton anthology.
Apr 13, 2012 4:37PM
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I think Oasis were a song band that happened to have terrible lyrics, although their incoherent cannonball metaphor was better than Damien Rice's. Noel's tunes and chord progressions may lend themselves to Rutle games, but, at least on the first two albums (which stand as totalities), he and Liam deliver their payloads efficiently, making the drunk singalong the best way of receiving the songs. Besides, you can sing the lyrics as you misheard them and they'll be better (my contribution: "maybe/I don't really wanna know/how you got engrossed/'cuz I just wanna play").

Not that the songs would mean a whit without the production. Owen Morris (note to Fabien Boss: oh yeah Ash, a fine song band with slightly less terrible lyrics) should be on Mt. Britpopmore with Jarvis, Justine, and I assert Norman Cook counts.

[your post was blocked because Ash were at their best on Trailer, which Owen Morris didn't touch]
Apr 13, 2012 4:20PM
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19. The Auteurs, "Lenny Valentino"
Apr 13, 2012 4:15PM
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 What's the pay-off for a new group playing that style now?  To have some 20 year-old college kid who's never paid for music in his life download their leaked (or released) album off rapidshare or a bit torrent site?  To waste a lot of time, energy, and $ touring so that they can play to an average of- if they're REALLY lucky- a few hundred people?  A few hundred people who will then download their current or next album for gratis?  No wonder the music's dead: you'd have to have zero ambition and no life plan to want to bother in most cases.

I gave a "thumbs down" to the comment by Cyclops below not because I thought it inappropriate or impolite, but because the idea expressed in the text box above seemed so depressing.

 

Call me naive, but I think new groups will continue to pick up beat up guitars, pile in to rusted old minivans and record badly produced but thrilling albums.  Either that or they will crank out something on their laptops.  I am good either way.

Apr 13, 2012 4:04PM
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Cyclops, it seems like financial incentives have rarely been the prime motivator for people to get into rock music, even for those who ultimately play and record to great commercial success.  There's always been way too little money on the front end.  You're right that an understanding of the market for certain types of music, including what we're calling indie rock, could lead you to believe that with the right breaks and talent that you might be able to make enough to keep doing it, and even enough to do it full time as a career.  But that just establishes the money making as a means to keep making music, not as the end itself. 
Apr 13, 2012 3:44PM
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A twenty year-old, or someone even younger, might start the Cloud Nothings or Care Bears on Fire.
Apr 13, 2012 3:33PM
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Creative expression?  Art?
See: Wussy.
 I'm talking about new groups started by young people, not new groups started by middle-agers who'd already been in the life for a long time.  CC is locked in at this point ("Too late to stop now") but would a twenty year-old CC start  the 'Ponys today?
Apr 13, 2012 3:29PM
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18. The Verve - "The Drugs Don't Work"
Apr 13, 2012 3:26PM
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If I may interject briefly. Point with Oasis isn't to isolate their "best" songs. They were basically more meaningless than, I dunno, the Knack, or maybe I mean 98 Degrees. What I want is a cross-slice of their sound, which meant more historicially than any individual Oasis song could and had some hair on its chest. I'm sure there are other "good" Oasis songs out there and positive these aren't the 17 "best." But I'd rather spend those four and a half minutes with something I've never heard even if it's worse, as chances are it will be.

Apr 13, 2012 3:22PM
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What's the pay-off for a new group playing that style now? 
Creative expression?  Art?

See: Wussy.
Apr 13, 2012 3:17PM
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17. (Don't Cut Me Down) Mary Quant In Blue The Dylans
 Or save time and just put their whole first album in the list :-)
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Starting in 1967, Robert Christgau has covered popular music for The Village Voice, Esquire, Blender, Playboy, Rolling Stone, and many other publications. He teaches in New York University's Clive Davis Department of Recorded Music, maintains a comprehensive website at robertchristgau.com, and has published five books based on his journalism. He has written for MSN Music since 2006.

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