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Cotton Mather/Oasis

Oh--You Mean Those Beatles

By Xgau Apr 13, 2012 5:37AM

Cotton Mather: Kontiki (Deluxe Edition) (Star Apple Kingdom)

Pieced together in 1997 from impulsively conceived, doggedly recorded scraps of DAT and four-track by Austin mastermind Robert Harrison and a Memphis tape wizard who loved how Big Star the band was, Cotton Mather's second album caught the attention of some British Beatles fanatics d/b/a Oasis, who brought them over to open and even generated some U.K. sales. While allowing his vocal resemblance to "John Lennon with a Southern accent and a head cold," Harrison's extensive notes don't cite the Beatles much even though "My Before and After" resembles "Ticket to Ride" more than its supposed inspiration "(Reach Out) I'll Be There" and "Private Ruth" echoes "For No One" straight up. Harrison is no more a genius than Noel Gallagher, so though the lyrics aren't spaced-out gibberish or obvious pap, they're unequal to the music‑-which definitely beats, for instance, the last three songs on the first Big Star album, and even more remarkable, kind of makes you appreciate Oasis. (N.B.: I'm recommending the Deluxe because it's new and much cheaper, not because I expect ever to listen to its alternates and new ones for anything except the research I presume is now complete.)  B PLUS

 

Oasis: Stop the Clocks (Sony BMG '06)

One of the many things I never got about this band was where the Beatles were. Where was the ebullience, the wit, the harmonies, God just the singing, and, uh, the songwriting? Cotton Mather made me understand that when Oasis say they love the Beatles they really mean they love the post-Help!, pre-Sgt. Pepper Beatles. Since that span encompasses Rubber Soul and Revolver, many would say tally ho, but (a) not me 'cause I love the Beatles start to finish and (b) only if you're writing songs as good as, uh, "We Can Work It Out." Instead Oasis, meaning loudmouth bro Noel Gallagher, write songs that resemble "We Can Work It Out" in thickened texture and momentum but not depth or charm, then add arena size in the swagger of the drums and the bigged-up vocals themselves. This band-selected best-of‑-two discs lasting 87 minutes, like an old-fashioned double-LP except it's only 18 tracks‑-capture their sonic moment as fully as any freelance music historian needs. A 2010 package repeats 11 of these songs and adds 16 others‑-too many, I say. Also, it omits the opening "Rock 'n' Roll Star." If ever there were guys whose message to the world is summed up by an opener called "Rock 'n' Roll Star," it's these bigheads. B PLUS

 

267Comments
Apr 16, 2012 9:17PM
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I don't like the polls myself. I don't find they provoke interesting conversation, and to me they feel backward-looking, nostalgic, sentimental. I like Robert Christgau's end of year list, because he's a systematic, forward-looking critic with a long pedigree of 'the best ears in the business', but most polls here are so derivative of his work (as mine would be) I don't see the point of them. Everyone will do what they want, but I definitely check out for anything to do with polls. I was almost tempted by 'favorite concerts ever' but after I jotted a load of concerts on a piece of paper, I felt they were just going to exclude the ones that didn't come immediately to mind. So I guess I'm with Milo.
Apr 16, 2012 9:00PM
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Milo, its kind of odd that you are the one complaining about being off-putting to "outsiders" while posting judgmental, borderline-snotty comments on other people's interests, whether they happen to be.  It looks to me like you are the one trying to shut people down/out based on what you think is "boring."  And since when are polls exclusionary?  I really don't follow what you are saying there.  I haven't participated in any of the previous polls and am not a regular poster here by any stretch, but I've been interested in the commentary and results of previous polls and certainly didn't feel excluded by the fact that they were taking place.  Sure, I can see that spending all of your time carefully rearranging your baseball cards rather than watching baseball games would get solipsistic and pointless.  But spending some time thinking about different played compare and why one is better than another is fundamental to enjoyment of the sport. 
Apr 16, 2012 8:51PM
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Very cool, Cam, that would be appreciated.
Apr 16, 2012 8:47PM
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I have This Price is Right on vinyl, but I don't see any evidence that it has ever been put out on CD.  
Joe, there's an import CD. I just passed it on to a colleague at work but when I get it back I can put it up in the sky.
Apr 16, 2012 8:43PM
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I have This Price is Right on vinyl, but I don't see any evidence that it has ever been put out on CD.  A key artifact if you want to hear early versions of Randy Newman songs.  

Game of Thrones is pretty terrific, although i wonder if my judgment is clouded because I'm already versed in the books.  
Apr 16, 2012 8:41PM
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Well, Reagan did restrain himself ! Learning what really was is Star Wars program was a crushing blow for the seventh year old me...
Apr 16, 2012 8:35PM
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I'm going away to watch TV and listen to rekkids, Game of Thrones, pretty good, huh?
Apr 16, 2012 8:35PM
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But then, Milo's More of the Animals rec resonated with me, and made me pull out Alan Price's The Price Is Right. It's a weirdly incessant hurdy-gurdy masterpiece take on hipster songs of the late 60s. I can't think of anything to compare it to. A man, an organ, and the intent to render every song imaginable in 6/8 time. Love it.
Apr 16, 2012 8:32PM
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I promise that this is not to spite Milo, but, hey, a poll of favorite albums our host has panned might be really fun. (Or we could just say albums he hasn't A-listed.) How high would we find Appetite for Destruction, OK Computer, and Straight Outta Compton? I'm kind of curious myself.

Apr 16, 2012 8:30PM
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It is indeed a risk although I would have to argue that people here have been much more self-restraint than I'd thought at the start.

(Oh, I can't resist) That's what they said about Republicans at the start of the Reagan Era.



Apr 16, 2012 8:29PM
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Breakfast is a waste of time. Lunch is too. Never eat when it is light out. Eat a huge carnally seductive dinner. And then eat ice cream and potato chips until you can't stay awake any more.

Well, that's what I do anyway.
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They are covert ways of determining who belongs and who doesn't.

God, no. If there is any tangible evidence* that polls are being used in that way, then I'm stopping right now. That's not what I want at all.


*Kay Huntington aside, though, I gotta say I find this bunch to be pretty respectful of others' tastes and interests in music. I really don't see much "whaddaya mean you've never heard of Have Moicy" here, not even in an implied way.

Apr 16, 2012 8:28PM
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We have gotten occasionally protect-our-turf-ish around here (like when JockRothko made his debut, which resembled the comic book convention of having the heroes fight until they realize that they're on the same side), but I don't really recall it ever orienting around the best-blank-of-blank discussions, or the here's-my-ballot posts that follow.  I recommend keeping multiple discussions going, and also engaging with new posters who might wish to initiate a discussion.  (I.e, no "I don't care about whatever you're going on about newb! Can't you see I'm trying to distill the essence of 1983 here?")
Apr 16, 2012 8:26PM
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A. Nevermind: I drove to the beach with my just-turned-15-year-old daughter today. 

We promise that Jo Dee Messina's "Heads Carolina, Tails California" will fit your bill. 



Apr 16, 2012 8:23PM
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I can see how polls shut people out, but it may be just as likely that a new person will feel more welcome here when he or she sees poll results that affirm their aesthetic persuasion. Because most likely that person's aesthetic persuasion will be at least a little Xgau-centric, and it's also likely that that Xgau-centricity hasn't yet had an outlet for them. So they can kick off their shoes and join in and finally meet people who love things similar to how they love them. Polls are one (of many) ways to do that. Also, they're fun. But obviously they're not fun for everyone. For the record, I'm not at all disagreeing with you Milo. I think your point is absolutely valid.
Apr 16, 2012 8:17PM
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They are covert ways of determining who belongs and who doesn't.

Dartmouth here we come ! Apart from that the point stands pretty well I think...

And, in my opinion, they tend to reenforce themselves more and more.

It is indeed a risk although I would have to argue that people here have been much more self-restraint than I'd thought at the start.

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I'd be very disappointed if Xgau hadn't found 10 breakfast foods he likes after 70 years.
Apr 16, 2012 8:10PM
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I would like people to consider the posts I've made tonight that have nothing to do with polls and suchlike. This is the EW I enjoy the most, maybe it's frivolous lists and maybe it's coarse banter, but it's open to whoever comes in. Polls shut people out

They are private conversations. I didn't get in on this and so I'm not welcome. (The non-poll participant who wants conversation.)

And, in my opinion, they tend to reenforce themselves more and more. They are covert ways of determining who belongs and who doesn't.

Apr 16, 2012 8:02PM
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Xgau's 10 favorite breakfast foods

Patrick made me wonder, does anyone have 10 favorite breakfast foods? Because I only eat like 3-4 different things for breakfast, if that. I think I need to spice up my morning routine.


Concerning polls, I think they're fun and I enjoy reading the results and everyone's ballots. I agree that our host's work is more than just grades and lists, but I also have to note that grades and lists are nonetheless an important and enjoyable part of his criticism. And we, as fans, enjoy trying to emulate his (and others') process. That said, I totally get how they're annoying. Not everyone is a tune-bro. And that's okay.

Apr 16, 2012 7:54PM
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 I intended my suggestion in that spirit, not as a some sort of rag on his CG reviews.
I'm sure. And forgive me, I just find endless polls on this blog tedious, off-putting to outsiders, boring to me, and a big jolt to poll-junkies who post here. Sure they work hard. So does every addict for a fix.

And yeah, patrick, you strike me as a poll junkie. Spend more time listening to music in its variety, responding to it, and less calibrating it.
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Starting in 1967, Robert Christgau has covered popular music for The Village Voice, Esquire, Blender, Playboy, Rolling Stone, and many other publications. He teaches in New York University's Clive Davis Department of Recorded Music, maintains a comprehensive website at robertchristgau.com, and has published five books based on his journalism. He has written for MSN Music since 2006.

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