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Notes for a Revised Paleontology

By Xgau Nov 15, 2011 6:11AM

 

Wilco: The Whole Love (Anti-)

Full-on Radiohead electronica Americanized with aw-shucks diffidence, red-blooded guitar, sharp tunes, and exceptionally dull poetry ("Standing O," "One Sunday Morning") ***

 

The Mountain Goats: All Eternals Deck (Merge)

Four great songs, all of which address mortality directly instead of implying it the way the nine merely ambitious ones do ("Estate Sale Sign," "For Charles Bronson," "Sourdoire Valley Song," "Beautiful Gas Mask") ***

 

Radiohead: The King of Limbs (XL/TBD)

So much more fun than Eno these days ("Little by Little," "Bloom") **

 

Comet Gain: Howl of the Lonely Crowd (What's Your Rupture?)

Desperate times catch up with desperate punk love poetry ("Clang of the Concrete Swans," "Ballad of Frankie Machine") **

 

 

Giant Sand: Blurry Blue Mountain (Fire)

With nothing much at stake but the shape of his life, Howe Gelb keeps his slow hand in ("Fields of Green," "Better Man Than Me") **


Faust: Something Dirty (Bureau B)

Synth-free after lo these many decades, their experiments have more oomph, especially the Hawkwind homages ("Tell the Bitch to Go Home," "Dampfauslass 2") **

 

Wire: Red Barked Tree (Pink Flag)

Even formalists get the grays--well, especially formalists ("Bad Worn Thing," "Please Take") **


New York Dolls: Dancing Backwards in High Heels (429)

Weary blues from trying ("Talk to Me Baby," "End of the Summer") *

 

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Nov 17, 2011 4:08PM
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Props: This is probably the best over-all issue of Rolling Stone I've read in years.
Nov 17, 2011 4:05PM
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So how do you guys handle these "dead spaces".  Just sit here like a fichin idiot and waste a half hour of my life waiting for some special hidden bonus track

Joe, i used a free program called audacity in conjunction with a how-to video . I thought it was rather easy.

 

I'm thinking of Jean-Pierre Melville's great 1969 film Army Of Shadows, which was never released theatrically in the United States until 2006
Of the six Melville films I've seen, all were at the very least really good. Presumably starting with his first crime drama Bob le Flambeur, Melville's aesthetic was continuously refined and tighten until it reached it's apotheosis in Army of Shadows, his masterpiece. An austere and brooding look at the French Resistance, with laconic characters overwhelmed by fate, it's a powerful film where form and content dovetail perfectly.
Nov 17, 2011 3:51PM
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I agree that we should hold off on polls until next year but I second the motion of maybe submitting a 2011 best of/round up list...or at least what we've bought and gave a lot of ear time to.  Of the Dean's '11 recommendations, I might have 25%, which is a lot...but those records that made an impression would be welcome feedback to the blog and of course Bob.

Special props to Prince's Graffiti Bridge which was a house favorite for my then two young boys.  Also, Mama Said Knock You Out was played heavily as a panacea for my baby's colic. Maybe also for the mama...

Nov 17, 2011 3:35PM
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1990 ballot:

1.  LL Cool J - Mama Said   
2.  Flatlanders - More a Legend Than  
3.  Sinead O'Connor - I Do Not Want  
4.  Lisa Stansfield - Affection  
5.  The Civil War -   PBS Special
6.  Carl Stalling Project 
7.  Red Hot & Blue   
8.  Rosanne Cash - Interiors  
9.  Alison Krauss - I've Got That Old Feeling  
10.  Social Distortion s/t  
Nov 17, 2011 3:27PM
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Fabien, of course, was EW's very first commenter.
Nov 17, 2011 3:15PM
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To celebrate the first year of EW (a bit in advance) I played a bit with my Stata:

_there has been 104 posts by Xgau, 21576 comments for a mean of 207 comments by post. But if we remove the first 18 posts who were very low-comments the mean is 244 by post.
_there was a first peak of comments at 560 for the 25th post about Old 97's. This was followed by a long downward trend that hit the lowest point at 106 for the 65th post about Nigerian Music. An upward trend followed that hit the highest point at 420 for the 88th post about Das Racist and we are currently on the downward trend that followed.
_Even if we remove the first 20 posts there is no correlation at all between the number of comments and the presence of a full A album.

As for the polls I'd gladly participate in some of them but two weeks is way too short for an entire year, a month would be much better.

Nov 17, 2011 1:29PM
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dunno why you had to pay 6
To be precise (and fair to Mick Jagger, who would never exploit us) I paid $5.38 tax included. I haven't explored much in the way of early Stones bootlegs. Liver Than You'll Ever Be (from 1969) is the earliest, and sounds god-awful. 
Nov 17, 2011 12:30PM
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Cam -- about the Stones Brussels bootleg release -- it's nice to have, and several of the songs are from a show that has never been bootlegged, so it's brand new even to collectors. It only cost me $5 in the US, dunno why you had to pay 6.  Their other best live show is Leeds 71 (broadcast on the BBC), followed by some of their 'punk' shows in the 60s.
Nov 17, 2011 12:29PM
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I spend far too much time at this blog and in these comments, and in doing so I've revived a passion for music that had waned a bit the past few years.
This makes me happy.

Nov 17, 2011 12:18PM
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As to whether polls are taking up too much room in this comments section, I'll leave that up to you folks to discuss. I'd like to point out though that as much as this sort of thing may be a turn-off for some readers, it can also be the hook that induces a more passive reader to get curious and get involved. You'd be surprised how many ballots I get from lurkers and semi-lurkers.

 

EDIT: Also, this:

2) I love the idea of intense, informed discussion of Xgau's reviews, but the reality is many of us haven't heard these releases yet and may have nothing interesting to say about them for months.  I think discussion will always veer to other topics about which we feel more comfortable speaking.
Nov 17, 2011 12:17PM
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It's not like anyone has some sort of release-date fetish.
But if they did, that would be ok, too. This is a very tolerant community and release-date fetishes are pretty far down the kink scale.
Nov 17, 2011 12:17PM
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On Jackson's welcome comments:

 

1) A year-long moratorium seems rather long, but it does feel as if the polls seem less than a month apart.  Given that we are about to enter both the holiday season and the end of year season, I think not having another poll until January makes perfect sense, and it could be a 2011 poll.  Then maybe wait a full month or two until another.

 

2) I love the idea of intense, informed discussion of Xgau's reviews, but the reality is many of us haven't heard these releases yet and may have nothing interesting to say about them for months.  I think discussion will always veer to other topics about which we feel more comfortable speaking.

 

I would hate it, however, if polls dominated the discussion, which sometimes does seem to be a bit of a threat.

 

3) Still, I've enjoyed the polls and appreciate what Patrick and Bradley S (it was Bradley on the jazz poll, right?) have brought to the board.

 

4) I like that we hash these things out on the board rather than resorting to cliches about not having to read posts in which you are not interested.  I spend far too much time at this blog and in these comments, and in doing so I've revived a passion for music that had waned a bit the past few years.

Nov 17, 2011 12:14PM
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diverse, almost Baroque the Sullivan show was.


Aw, c'mon -- you knew that Ed once had a threesome with J. Edgar and Howdy Doody, right?

Nov 17, 2011 12:09PM
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The idea of the London Calling/Dean's List rule is just to have an easy, simple way of agreeing on a release year so that points don't get split between 2 different years. It's not like anyone has some sort of release-date fetish.

 

Speaking of which, Sonny Sharrock Band's 1991 Highlife got one vote and 3 runner-up mentions in this poll, so I imagine it'll do pretty spectacularly when/if we do 1991.

 

(re. Prince and Yo La Tengo and Salt 'n Pepa, I don't have the numbers with me, but I will post also-rans when I get home)

Nov 17, 2011 12:08PM
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Completely non-poll-related Rolling Stones-related tidbits:


1. Looks like the Stones are going whole hog as online-ephemera merchants at the Stones Archive, with promises of “bootlegs * rarities * etc”. I’m not sure how I generally feel about this: I don’t think we need any more Stones music to fully gauge their impact, and what little I’ve dipped into the Stones black market hasn’t been all that rewarding. My big exception though is the Brussells 1973 bootleg, which I've loved for many years and which is coincidentally their first digital download. This is when the Stones truly were the greatest rock 'n roll band in the world. Whereas the Stones often sound like amateur hour on bootlegs, they’ve got it going on for this show. It looks like you can download it for $7 in 256 kbps outside the US from the Stones Archives web site, but Google Android seems to have a US exclusive (for right now anyway) with a 320 kbps, $6 version that I managed to figure out how to download onto my computer after purchase with a moderate amount of effort. (Nice video of Tim Quirk interviewing Keith Richards at the Android site. Also, gotta love the cover art) If I were to recommend one live Stones recording, I’d say choose two and get this and the El Mocambo side from Love You Live.


2. The six Ed Sullivan episodes that the Stones appeared on are now available on DVD. Not just the Stones’ songs, the entire episodes. Ta-ra! I have the vaguest of recollections of the Ed Sullivan show. And I’m not about to suggest that you ought to actually buy this. But I for one was really unprepared at how diverse, almost Baroque the Sullivan show was. “Paint It, Black” and “Have You Seen Your Mother Baby?” frame the Muppets (“Rock and Roll Routine”), “Vicino a Te”, Joan Rivers and Robert Goulet. “Gimme Shelter”, “Love In Vain”, and “Honky Tonk Women” share the bill with Topo Gigio, a tiger & horses act, and Ella Fitzgerald (“You Better Love Me”!). Definitely worth scanning the contents: http://goo.gl/VJl57

Nov 17, 2011 11:49AM
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1. L.L. Cool J: Mama Said Knock You Out 20
2. The Pixies: Bossanova 18
3. The Chills: Submarine Bells 11
4. Sonic Youth: Goo 11
5. Blake Babies: Sunburn 8
6. Freedy Johnston: The Trouble Tree 8
7. The Clean: Vehicle  7
8. Pylon: Chain  7
9. Perfect Disaster: Up  5
10. Thomas Anderson: "Alright It Was Frank--And He's Risen From the Dead and Gone Off With His Truck"  5

I've really been enjoying listening to that Thomas Anderson album again after all these years.  Did anyone else vote for it?
Nov 17, 2011 11:45AM
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Fellow Witnesses, I give you Submarine Bells.
them's fighting words, punk!
Ioannis - including runners-up, your ballot and mine have 10 albums in common, so I'm inclined to be forgiving of this unfortunate lapse in your good taste.  =8-D
Nov 17, 2011 11:41AM
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Here's my take on release dates - critics operating in real time are of course forced to review albums as they are made available. Why music consumers decades later should hamstring themselves by the same rules, long after the fact of international release dates have ceased to matter one whit, doesn't make sense to me. I'm thinking of Jean-Pierre Melville's great 1969 film Army Of Shadows, which was never released theatrically in the United States until 2006. As a result, it made a lot of American critics' Best Film lists for 2006. But once year end lists made their proper appearances, nobody claimed it wasn't a film from 1969.

But honestly, I have no problems with changing my ballot. 
Nov 17, 2011 11:38AM
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Mark: aargh!  Just forgot about Fakebook.  Would have had it.

But what happened to Salt 'n Pepa?  I see a few scattered mentions of them below, but their non-showing was the biggest surprise to me.
Nov 17, 2011 11:30AM
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Greg, are you responding to the no-show for the Who's Join Together live album in our 1990 album poll?  :)

Regarding the year for The La's, supposing we do a '91 poll, I'd just want it to get considered and represented as if it was definitely from one year or another.  Patrick did make a good case for his "London Calling rule" regarding London Calling itself (that is, we'd regard it as a 1980 album despite a December '79 release in the UK), but it gets harder to justify as the number of months between UK and US release increases. 

Mike, I remember Gina Arnold having an 'A+' review of the album in Entertainment Weekly, just as it came out in the States, and I see online that this review is dated from the April 5, 1991 issue.  So that's the best info I've got as far as the US date.

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Robert Christgau

Starting in 1967, Robert Christgau has covered popular music for The Village Voice, Esquire, Blender, Playboy, Rolling Stone, and many other publications. He teaches in New York University's Clive Davis Department of Recorded Music, maintains a comprehensive website at robertchristgau.com, and has published five books based on his journalism. He has written for MSN Music since 2006.

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