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The Roots/Kanye West

Hip-Hop Albums of the Year

By Xgau Nov 30, 2010 8:43AM

The Roots: How I Got Over (Def Jam)


It's not like hop-hop and anxiety are strangers. But usually that means the mortal fear epitomized by the Notorious B.I.G., or the rampaging neuroses dramatized by Eminem, or the hand-to-mouth worries some alt-rappers cop to. Here it's garden-variety upper-middle-class anxiety. What's next? Am I doing the right thing? Can I pass my accomplishments on to my kids? Is the economy about to go phlooey? Is God on my side? Is God on anyone's side? These are exactly the querulous feelings associated with the alt-rock famously present on the Roots' ninth album in the form of the Dirty Projectors, the Monsters of Folk, and the perfectly sampled Joanna Newsom. Difference is, complex-rhyming Black Thought and his many gifted guest MCs express them more directly, thoughtfully, eloquently, and entertainingly than any of those tyros. And then they up the ante and confront their anxieties with a fortitude and even optimism embodied by Kamal Gray's keyboards, never my idea of this band's strenth, and, especially, ?uestlove's drums. I love sampled beats. But 90 percent of the time I'd rather ride Ahmir Thompson's hand, feet, and brain. A

 


Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (Roc-a-Fella)


Arrogance per se has never been Yeezy's problem‑-he has every right to think he's more talented than Nas, Taylor Swift, or me. His problem is that he has no gift for it. Not only is he radically insecure, he didn't come up on the get-it-while-you-can fatalism that armors gangstas street, showbiz, and in between. Cannily and candidly, he acknowledges this on "Monster," where he knows perfectly well that his "profit profit" bling-and-sex brag is about to get blown away by padrone Jay-Z's "All I see is these n****z I made millionaires/Millin' about" and pink-haired Nicki Minaj's "bitch from Sri Lanka"-"Willy Wonka"-"watch the queen conquer" trifecta. Cataloguing the perks of power he sounds as geeky as Mark Zuckerberg, and because grandiosity doesn't suit him deep down, the sonic luxuries of this world-beating return to form have no shot at the grace of The Collede Dropout or Late Registration. But because he's shrewd and large, he knows how to use his profits profits to induce Jay-Z, Pusha T, the RZA, Swizz Beats, and his boy Prince CyHi to admit and indeed complain that the whole deal is "f***in' ridiculous." "Power" doesn't establish his potency and "Gorgeous" isn't quite. But "Hell of a Life"? "I'm so gifted at finding what I don't like the most"? That's his heart, his message, the reason he's so major. It's also why he goes out on a righteous, wacked-out 90-second diatribe by a Gil Scott-Heron so young he hasn't gotten into cocaine‑-hasn't even signed to a major label. A

 

20Comments
Jan 10, 2011 1:05AM
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     Kanye West's most intelligent album yet. Its vibrantly aesthetic to the extremes with conceptual, avant-garde, cinematic beats to it. The only minor complaint is the dearth of tracks since the album, clocking at nearly 70 minutes, still feels short because all the songs are killers. Its like watching Social Network, so craftily intelligent that one really wishes it never comes to an end. That';s why most artist resort to having a few fillers to make the album sound complete. All tracks are top-class: Monster, Hell of A Life, Runaway (chilling), Dark Fantasy (wicked), Lost in a World and lastly Who will survive in America?, all get the notes perfect. 'A' almost touching 'A+' 
Jan 4, 2011 12:16AM
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i really disliked kanye west's new album on the first listen

its like geting worse and worse,

the only time it lightened up is when nicki minaj came

out and shout somthing about "sri lanka" "willy wonka"and"****ing monster"

 

though i never gave up, i still hate it

maybe this would be one of the really good records i will never get.

 

Dec 26, 2010 4:38PM
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Without a doubt, Kanye is the best artist of the past decade. From the moment "The Blueprint" dropped (Takeover, Izzo Hova), nothing has ever been the same since. Then "College Dropout" and "Late Registration"(both A+ records) set the new standards in hiphop, forever changing the landscape. Graduation and 808's are always open for debate; but both of those records paved the glossy-techno sound for MBDTF. It's not as soulful as Dropout or it doesnt have the pomp and circumstance of Late, but this record has what it takes "to turn athesist into believers". Its cold, its dark, its hell to listen to; a party record and a record to be taken seriously. Listen to this record; as Kanye takes the crown and becomes hiphop's new king.

Dec 22, 2010 11:14PM
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I've listened to MBDTF a few times and I find it generally very appealing.  Robert Christgau, I'd love to know what you think of Nicki Minaj's new album.
Dec 21, 2010 8:20PM
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I disagree with you, Rio, and I'm going to respond only because I think you nevertheless raise some good points. I'm also not big on Jay-Z's verse or Drake's album, and I'll also readily admit to the undeniable music critic pandering. 

The last point is especially interesting to me, because when I hear the King Crimson sample, I also KNOW its mostly food for the critics (especially the long, Pitchfork-style reviews that love to weave elaborate stories about every album they like), but rather than get annoyed, I grin. With Kanye West its touching - like one of my friends pointed out so accurately, Kanye cares more than any artist I know that every single person out there loves the album - he's been like this for every album except 808s. The fact that you, Rio, are annoyed at the sample and pissed off the album in general is a high priority problem for Ye - he'd like to sit you down and survey your tastes and listen to your favourite music and provide you with the right fix. The paradox that what Scott Plagenhoef (or whomever from Pfork) likes is precisely what you hate really disturbs Kanye, and he responds violently "I know damn well y'all feeling this ****", but again, touchingly. And he's actually right - the King Crimson sample, like the Can sample in Graduation, 'works' - rather independently of what you might think of In The Court of the Crimson King or Ege Bamyasi (Christgau's D+ Crimson review is clearly not what 'brought this down' to an A). 

But yeah, Jay-Z verse on Monster is pretty mediocre ("what do these things have in common?" ugh) except for Christgau's above quotation. But I'm perplexed and kind of offended about the Jack Nicholson comparison. Didn't we all love him in The Departed?

Seriously though, just like we forgive D12 on Eminem albums, we can certainly forgive much more than Jay-Z's occasional lyrical falterings. Like Mr. Christgau pointed out, in general Kanye brings the best out of his features (not only do we witness some of Pusha T's best verses, but even Fergie and Rick Ross are damn good).

Which reminds me, how can you not like the album? Did you really manage  to not love the super soulfulness of Devil in a New Dress? Kanye's flow? The one liners? The epic that is All Of the Lights? 

Dec 19, 2010 2:49PM
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What's interesting is how/why most media outlets, mainstream & underground, find Kanye's record one of the best of the year.  It's such a bunch of sad nothing -- dull production and laughably, furiously  immature content.  This kind of contrived, cynical product -- which relates to nobody's life except K's media-spectacular one -- is laudable?  That Jay-Z's verse is amusingly awful is totally unsurprising: he's become the Jack Nicholson of rap, hyper-irrelevant.  The revelatory clincher: there's more on Taylor Swift than Donda.  When King Crimson becomes your signature statement of angsty malaise, you KNOW the game is music critic pandering. This and Drake were the Vaporware Busts of the year.  No wonder Rick Ross seems like a classic.

Dec 8, 2010 3:03PM
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So  thanks to K. Blah I did find the Reflection Eternal album on Rhapsody--where the  search mechanism often needs to be tricked, which I thought I'd done by requesting a song title that didn't come up--and played it. Once, except for twice on the oil song, an unusually meaty political lyric of no other special distinction. Some kind of Honorable Mention most likely, but definitely not an A. How liberating it feels not to be obliged to play it two or three more times.
Dec 7, 2010 6:58AM
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greetings from sweden sir christgau.

 

in the country of mine this was the first album by west to get rave reviews: the average grade was as high as 4,6/5, only surpassed by the - surprise! - Robyn-album.

my opinion of Dark Twisted fantasy was upon first listening kind of mixed. I loved the "title track" and getting chills out of "all of the lights", otherwise i felt the production was dry - like an early 70's/late 60's prog rock album. but just like his two first it has grown on me and now i believe it's just as good as Late Registration. But where this masterpiece (late...) was of sophistication, this one is raw and ear bumming, and there is just as much sadness and feelings of loss in "Runaway" (and especially the medley which bookends the album) as in "Gone" and "Roses".

One thing you're absolutely right about: "Gorgeous"; after the true classic, almost operatic "Dark fantasy" this tends to be sort an anticlimax, which of course is a shame.

 

regards from the swedes... who? 

Dec 5, 2010 1:03PM
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Great reviews, and I'm glad to see the consumer guide back!

 

I would like to get your take on Big Boi's relase Sir Lucious Left Foot.  It's definitely an Outkast caliber album, and I'm shocked that it didn't get nominated for the Rap Album of the Year Grammy.  The critical praise on this album is practically unanimous.

Dec 3, 2010 11:05PM
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Mr. Christgau,
The Kweli album (filed under Reflection Eternal) is on Rhapsody (I know cuz that's how I heard it).

Dec 3, 2010 10:22PM
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While I don't necessarily consider Ms. Newsom, the Monsters of Folk, and Dirty Projectors tyros (didn't you give "the Milk Eyed Mender a very positive write up?), this is some great stuff. I whole heartedly agree with both write ups, although I think Power is a more potent single than Hell of a Life...
Dec 3, 2010 4:23PM
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Let me briefly explain something. Anybody who wants to know how I feel about an artist can usually find out with a search at robertchristgau.com. There you will find I think Talib Kweli is overrated, and in 2007 wrote a Rolling Stone review that explained why. Here it is:

TALIB KWELI
Eardrum
Blacksmith/Warner Bros.

Brainy rapper gets plenty of help -- and needs it -- but doesn't score a knockout

Talib Kweli earns the respect he gets. He's got plenty of brains and enough flow, and though his attempts to make conscious rap commercial inspire purist sniping, he's balanced the two with integrity and grace. But four solo albums in, it can't be an accident that he's done his signature work with collaborators -- Mos Def (Black Star), Hi-Tek (Reflection Eternal) and many, many cameos (try the z "My Favorite Mutiny"). The man simply lacks spark. Kweli's Warner debut features yet more cameos -- Kanye! Norah Jones! UGK! -- and many, many producers. Though it's admirably consistent and pretty darn OK, it lacks a knockout track to counterbalance the complaints about the King James Bible and swine toothpaste. Closest is one to his kids, with Musiq Soulchild adding music and soul, child. Just after, "Listen!!!" establishes its right to bang on your title orifice. But then there's Justin Timberlake's bonus cut. JT -- eschew philosophy! You sing, therefore you are.


So that's pretty much what I think--an opinion I have a right to whether you share it or not. When the 2010 Reflection Eternal came out, Warner Bros. didn't send it. I get very little mainstream hip-hop service. Usually what I do is go to Rhapsody and stream or download to my Sansa player. If I like something a lot I might buy it, as I did with both the Roots and Kanye. But Rhapsody doesn't have this record for some reason. And guess what--I don't do unauthorized downloads except maybe once every year or two under extreme duress. Maybe I could have found it somewhere else. But given Kweli's track record with me, I said the hell with it. And unless that record gets some very convincing critics poll support at year's end, that will be that. No Honorable Mentions really frees me up that way.




Dec 2, 2010 3:12PM
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Travis - for Xgau music comes before genre so even if something was prog-rock but was musically sound then we wouldn't pan it. He may very well been planning to review that album - if it makes an A grade? He may have already heard it and only liked a few songs. Don't jump to assumptions and let's all get one thing straight - if you're here you want good music and should understand why certain albums may get certain grades. If not, you at least appreciate the Boss' opinion. Saying that someone has no credit because he has not reviewed an album is just spastic. Well, unless you were tempting him into writing a review..? :p
Dec 1, 2010 10:01PM
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Got around to listening to How I Got Over a few times. Sounds like a great album. Might turn out being my favorite from them and I think it should probably be a contender for album of the year. Thanks for the heads up.

I also deleted my previous comment. Poor reading on my part. I completely misinterpreted what Christgau was saying. My apologies.

And to the last poster, he's not reviewing everything. I believe he stated that most of the time he'll be reviewing two albums per post, and four albums per week. He may have listened to that and that album may turn up later, who knows.

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W. T. F! The critic never listened to Talib Qweli/DJ Hi Tek: Reflection Eternals Revolutions Per Minute??? These critics kill me when they only listen to certain artist music and not others and swear these were the best of the year. Now I feel him with The Roots(Their best since Game Theory) and Kanyes new disc. Artisticly this is Yeezys best album. I love Late Registration and always believed it to be the best but Kanye came with everything that he had this time. The Roots is and should be number one though. Su****ect matter is a must to this old school hip hop head. But check out Reflection Eternals latest as well. Peace Hip Hop.

Dec 1, 2010 12:10PM
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There's something about MBDTF that's leaving me cold. I'm happy that it's a bit more sonically challenging  then Graduation, but I don't feel like its "hard to be me" themes really add up to much. Mostly I think I just miss the pleasure he used to get out of cracking corny jokes in his rhymes.
Nov 30, 2010 3:14PM
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After listening to 'How I Got Over' a few times I think it'll definetly make the top ten - maybe sixth? It's funny - you really dig the ryhmes and the grooves and you feel like more time has passed - but you look at iTunes and you're on track two, or three, or four! It really is the best album I have listened to this year, so far - I know I missed some of your earlier A's this year.
Nov 30, 2010 12:49PM
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I knew Kanye's album was going to get an A. Personally, it gives me such strong pleasure that I would have to give it an A+. That being said, I didn't think it could possibly be as good as I heard it as being. And there was no doubt in my mind that Christgau would pick up on the flaws that I did not (actually I have probably picked up them too but I have chosen to ignore them).

Simply, the man knows what he's talking about. The album will always be an A+ for me though. I enjoy it far too much to give it anything less.

Also, I haven't listened to the new Roots album. I really have to get on that. I have been indulging far too much on music from the 60s and 70s lately, so I really need to get back in the fold of listening to today's stuff. This year really seems to have been a great year for hip-hop though.
Nov 30, 2010 10:42AM
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I agree - something about the riff on 'Gorgeous' jut doesn't quite cut it for me - I still like the riff - but it's the whole package with Kanye - never the individual hook. Agreed no.2 - this is nowhere near the grooviness of 'The College Dropout' or the meticulousness of 'Late Registration' but it's a welcome change. My favourite tracks of the CD are the last 5 (not including the bonus track) - from where the piano cuts in. I can't stand the intro to 'Dark Fantasy' - which is a shame because I like the rest of the song. Where will this land on the Pazz & Jop poll (of course there is going to be one)? I'm thinking between 12 and 23 - but who knows?! I wish some of the tracks were faster.
Nov 30, 2010 9:31AM
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Pleasant surprise with the Kanye A: not that the album doesn't deserve it (it does) but it presents itself with notably unChristgauian flourishes. I justify my Yeezy obsession and brag to everyone the Dean of Rock critics acknowledged the man's pop music transcendence back in the day before all the autotuned solipsism. In the weeks preceding this, I feared that MBDTF was not (or would never be viewed as) the return to form that is it for me. 

And eloquence with The Roots, as usual. 

Beautiful update.
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Robert Christgau

Starting in 1967, Robert Christgau has covered popular music for The Village Voice, Esquire, Blender, Playboy, Rolling Stone, and many other publications. He teaches in New York University's Clive Davis Department of Recorded Music, maintains a comprehensive website at robertchristgau.com, and has published five books based on his journalism. He has written for MSN Music since 2006.

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