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Frank Ocean/Greenberger Greenberg Cebar

Words Before Music Done Right

By Xgau Jul 20, 2012 6:36AM

 

Frank Ocean: Channel Orange (Def Jam)

One, Nostalgia, Ultra wasn't perfect. Two, neither is this, but in a different way. There's no song here as astonishing as "Strawberry Swing," "Novacane," or "American Wedding"‑-two of which, you will note, exploit Other People's Music (not to mention the Other Man's Music), and all of which inhabit a narrative world simultaneously richer and more ordinary than the haut-monde demimonde of most of these songs. But the musical craft on this almost sampleless album is so even-keeled that there's no song here as forgettable as "There Will Be Tears" or "Dust" either. You could speculate that when he's the sole composer Ocean resists making a show of himself‑-resists the dope hook, the smart tempo, the transcendent falsetto itself. And just as his music is about control, he never promotes a subject matter I believe fascinates him in a cautionary way, as the assigned fate of the r&b elite. Definitely his official debut is about the demimonde, not of it. And definitely the verbal content rules. For a musical prodigy to be a writer first is a mitzvah. But that doesn't mean we have to share his fascinations. A MINUS

 

Greenberger Greenberg Cebar: Tell Me That Before (Pel Pel)

David Greenberger and his Duplex Planet project are old news, and there've been other recordings. But I'm not sure how many a music person would want, and can't imagine any of them improving on the new one I've fallen for: 17 subtly intonated dramatizations of words Americans in elder facilities have spoken to Greenberger followed by a multivocal 19-minute finale. No one's altogether bitter, but many are weary, and gradually the selections become not so much sadder as deeper, their bygone vernacular a bearer of authority and idiosyncrasy, reason and regret. Wise, deluded, confused, loving, placid, wacky, they reminisce and philosophize as they wait for the end, and Greenberger respects them all. Mark Greenberg provides each reflection with dedicated homespun accompaniment‑-bass and/or drums and/or keyboard, ukulele and/or accordion and/or vibraphone‑-that accents the musicality of their speech. The words would appear to be all. Yet every time your mind wanders, your ear tells you they're not. A MINUS

 

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Sep 28, 2012 2:04AM
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I have a hard time reading this guy's words.  Is it just me or anyone struggle?


Jul 23, 2012 10:53PM
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Thanks for the praise, guys.  You know there are only two songs left.  "Dust" tonight (might post in the morning) and "We All Try," my favorite Frank Ocean song, the day after.  Yes, this will end up on my noisecritic blog.  Thanks for the praise.  When you're putting lots in, it's great to get a little out.
Jul 23, 2012 10:14PM
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So what did we learn about Channel Orange, ultimately?
Jul 23, 2012 9:41PM
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I'll echo that praise for Joey's Nostalgia, Ultra entries. I'm sure there is a more humble way to put it than to say, sometimes the genuine love that people have for things finds words, but that's the best  I can do.

And sports comment of the day -- Ichiro to the Yankees?? That's the single most ambivalent idea I can remember having since ever. I'm not mad it happened but I am shaken that it had to.
Jul 23, 2012 9:21PM
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Some quick mop-up before the thread goes adios:

1) Liam: I saw your recent mention of "The Old Triangle" but couldn't trace the exchange with Greg where it first came up. I was wondering if you had heard the gorgeous version of that song (under the title "Banks Of The Royal Canal") on Dylan and the Band's complete Basement Tapes. If not, here it is, along with a disc's worth of underheard other highlights from that set (it's called A Tree With Roots in this bootleg iteration). Can't have enough Dylan, right? That link:

http://goo.gl/ffEMY

And a question: what's the deal with the triangle's jingle-jangle in the morning? Did Dylan have Behan's song in the back of his mind when he wrote "Mr. Tambourine Man"? Is "MTM" a secret prison ballad? This screams for a Believer essay. Get cracking, Greilists.

2) Nicky: Sorry to hear about your break-up, but thanks so much for the channel ORANGE review. I love it so much I printed it out in 32-pt. Times Roman and gave it pride of place on my cork-board (goodbye forever, 23rd Psalm). You think I'm kidding but I'm not: it's so succinct yet so detailed, and it gave me the only good laugh I've had all month (I've had a really bad month). And weirdly, I was listening to "Back In The USSR" when I read it, another song with an airplane take-off in it. Coincidence? Impossible!

3) Joey: Your song-by-song on Nostalgia, Ultra will end up on the Noisecritic's Blog, right? It's (and I don't know how else to put this) magnificent. That N,U begins with the end of the world and ends in the Garden Of Eden is something I must have known, but I never quite took it in until you pointed it out. And your entry on "There Will Be Tears" couldn't be better: "the quiet, innocent machinery of the intro to the triumphant wave that surfs above it", "a song name that Chris Martin would take gladly", "Frank screams to his dead playa granddaddy or his missing father that a warning would’ve been nice". Someone was suggesting that I hate rock criticism. Wrong. When it's this good I love it.

4) It's hard to imagine a more moving tribute to Alexander Cockburn than James Wolcott's, here:

http://goo.gl/cPsSk

Jul 23, 2012 7:59PM
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I dunno Milo, Carlos might suffer from the comparisons you've got there...
Jul 23, 2012 7:10PM
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"Prince told Neal Karlen in Rolling Stone that his guitar playing owed more to Carlos Santana than to Jimi Hendrix; this ['I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man'] is one of the few places you can really hear what he meant."

Sign 'O' the Times, Michaelangelo Matos, p. 97
Jul 23, 2012 7:08PM
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Here's my take on Santana, in a nutshell: When I watch Santana play during the Woodstock film, I think: These guys are unstoppable, how could they not be destined to make buckets of great music? But I've never heard anything by him/them that sustains that bohemian freakout intensity for more than a moment or two. Maybe there is a live show out there somewhere that makes it all the way into the end zone. Or maybe it was just the mushrooms.

And although I respect Santana as a guitarist, I wouldn't even put him remotely in the same category as Prince in terms of style or proficiency.
Jul 23, 2012 6:36PM
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The Santana/Prince thing is only obvious, to me at least, during the guitar solo on "I Could
Never Take the Place of Your Man." Beyond that, I'm not hearing it.

Jul 23, 2012 5:56PM
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Awright, Allen -- we're having a Summer Crate-Dig here (highlights so far -- Jerry Lee Lewis Rockin' My Life Away -- "Harbor Lights" ! "hangin' in like Gunga Din"!! and Linda Gail Lewis, International Affair -- "I Can Help"! prolly make me holler for help), so I'm gonna slap on a disc of the three-disc box Dance of the Rainbow Serpent and will report if anything has changed from this quarter.
Jul 23, 2012 5:40PM
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Milo, many of your thoughts on Santana were mine as well...for whatever reason (and I may attempt to put it into words at some point) his stuff has suddenly been coming on strong for me.

Patrick, I'm liking Caravanserai so far - thank you.  JY, I've been considering that box, too, but wanted to get some other opinions first.

I remember liking Morrissey's 10-minute "Moon River"  wooze-a-thon when I first heard it, but it's been years.

Jul 23, 2012 5:34PM
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Prince takes a lot of cues from Santana? I'm afraid that statement requires some explanation. Would you mind elaborating?
Jul 23, 2012 5:24PM
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Alexander the Terrible, nothing whatsoever towards you. I was commenting on the juxtaposition.  Get over yourself, man.
Jul 23, 2012 5:22PM
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Lurking frequently, but haven't commented lately. Wanted to give a shout out to Cam and the Ronald Shannon Jackson thread. Played him far more frequently in the vinyl era and just catching up to some of the digital output I own. In particular, I remember this piece in Destination Out about Barbeque Dog that got me hooked again ("Struttin' with the Barbecue"  It's a great piece, followed by a robust comments section that reminds me a lot of this fellowship. Don't miss the last comment - the Stampfel of jazz indeed!
http://destination-out.com/?p=32

Jul 23, 2012 5:20PM
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Milo, I always liked REM's a capella version of "Moon River".  I can see how the original may have seemed like the enemy.
Jul 23, 2012 4:47PM
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Checking Tom Hull's Xgau site for Santana, I was surprised to realize that:

1) Moonflower seems to be Xgau's fave Santana album.

2)  Carlos was included in "Subjects for Further Research" not only in the 80s but in the 90s as well. 

3) Xgau said nice things about Santana's "smart" 3-disc box set. 

So perhaps the box is the way to go, as opposed to the 2-disc Essential Santana.
I've always thought it was funny how some renowned bands earn only a single "A" grade from Xgau (King Crimson, Radiohead), and others just never make the grade.  Some only make the grade with a best-of (Alice Cooper, the Cars), and sometimes even the best-of's don't cut it (Britney).

Jul 23, 2012 4:33PM
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Thanks Richard, that was a collaborative effort in that a few people offered bottles, and it ended up being a nice line up.  The Rittenhouse was the favourite on the night, I don't think it tastes like a 50% abv whisky (no e in that one).

Shadyshack, I like that Van Winkle 13 year old Rye too, goes down very well.  I think Richard was talking about Pappy Van Winkle which is a higher end version, which I haven't tried though I have seen.  Tastings are useful for letting you see what more expensive stuff is like, or whether something is worth your money, since whisk(e)y isn't cheap.

Greg T, Glenmorangie's a very good malt and I like nearly every version I've tried, especially the 18 year old and the Port finish.  I wouldn't put ice in it myself but when it's in your glass you do what you like.  Dewar's is a good blend too.

Jul 23, 2012 4:18PM
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Caravanserai was the album I listened to the most by overwhelming choice during my stoner period in high school. Interestingly, I didn't own any other Santana albums and have never bought another one since then. 
Jul 23, 2012 4:08PM
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Quite apropos of nothing - and boy, do I mean nothing - in an attempt to fill in some down time at my brother's place this afternoon, I popped Guns N Roses (Appetite) and Jane's Addiction (Nothing's Shocking) into his disc changer and hit shuffle. While I was hardly paying close attention, at least three different times I couldn't immediately identify which band was on. Not sure if this speaks worse of Perry Farrell or Axl Rose.
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Starting in 1967, Robert Christgau has covered popular music for The Village Voice, Esquire, Blender, Playboy, Rolling Stone, and many other publications. He teaches in New York University's Clive Davis Department of Recorded Music, maintains a comprehensive website at robertchristgau.com, and has published five books based on his journalism. He has written for MSN Music since 2006.

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