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Raphael Saadiq/Beastie Boys

Fight for Your Right to Forty (or Actually, Forty-Five)

By Xgau May 10, 2011 5:01AM
 

Raphael Saadiq: Stone Rollin' (Columbia)

One problem with dropping a tour de force out of the blue is that it sends expectations skyrocketing. So as we should have figured, the hook density is down three years after The Way I See It as the former Ray Wiggins declines to provide another dozen perfect Holland-Dozier-Holland songs. In fact, the born bassist now seems obsessed with groove rather than song. More Prince than Ray Parker Jr., he plays with himself to beat the band, and makes these 10 tracks bump and pulse. And then you notice even the less pneumatic ones connecting as songs. Fearing hell or working two jobs or fixing to buy what he can't afford, Saadiq sounds something like natural. Only when you do the math‑-three tracks a year, hmm‑-do you remember that natural's not in it. A MINUS

 

Beastie Boys: Hot Sauce Committee Part Two (Capitol)

More light-hearted than their Gotham-cheering album of 2004, and if you think light-hearted means shallow‑-especially for a rapper with a tumor threatening his salivary glands at age 42, which was where MCA found himself last July‑-you've come to the wrong art form. With a push from Nas and a whoosh from Santigold and new life from their chorusing kids, the beats spritz and submarine in signature Beasties style as the rhymes claim contexts high-living and low-life. But when they need to state their business, here come two old reliables: "Like Willis Reed or Elton John/We done been in the game and our game's still on." A MINUS

 

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May 12, 2011 11:10PM
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waybackmachine.org is an archive of old web pages.

Most recent version I can find of Determan's companion to Morthland ("Last update 19 December, 2002"): goo.gl/Sei8W
May 12, 2011 10:12PM
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Shows how out of it I am. I never heard of this Wayback Machine (unless Peabody and Sherman were talking about it) -- how does it work? what can it look up?
May 12, 2011 9:36PM
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Cam - Thanks for the tip - I'll seek Okeh Western Swing out on CD.

Tom - Wow!  I forgot about that Lyons book which me and a friend took out from the library 25 years ago and used to learn about jazz in college.  What a great book, and I can't believe I never picked up a copy for my own bookshelf.  I just used Wayback Machine (first time) and found the lists so thank you.

May 12, 2011 9:24PM
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I looked for the Morthland-on-CD page a while back and the available links were all dead. Tried again tonight using the Wayback Machine and tracked it down. Looks like it's been broken since 2007, but perhaps more importantly that the file hasn't been updated since December 2002. I made a copy of it and a similar one Jim Determan did on Len Lyons, The 101 Best Jazz Albums: A History of Jazz on Records. Not sure what to do with them, but it's tempting to clean them up and post them -- looks like a fair amount of work. A much bigger task/question would be bringing them up to date.


May 12, 2011 7:54PM
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Joe--   Okeh Western Swing sounds great on CD. All 28 songs are on the CD. Evidently this has been issued twice on CD. I've heard that some versions don't have the artists listed with the tracks but mine does, and also has the full notes.
May 12, 2011 7:33PM
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John_DMDC - thanks for the 18 King Size Country Hits track listing which I'll work on assembling.  2 tracks ea by Grandpa Jones and Moon Mullican - I'm intrigued.  Pulled John Morthland's The Best of Country Music off the shelf but unfortunately this compilation wasn't reviewed inside.  Whenever I read that book, I get inspired to listen to other country LPs.  Also found out that someone named Jim Determan "updated" Morthland's book for the CD age, but the link (findable online) seems to lead nowhere.  Too bad - sounds like a great project as there's lots of vinyl listed in that book that I'd love to hear on CD.  One of which is Morthland's own Okeh Western Swing, a great 2-LP that I believe was reissued on CD, but I'd be curious to know if anyone has the CD:  1) does the entire 2 LPs of music fit on 1 CD?  2) how's the sound quality - OK?  some early CDs from the late 80s sound "weak" on CD - not sure when this 1982 LP was reissued on CD -  and 3) any good notes or are they reprinted so small in the booklet as to be unreadable?    
May 12, 2011 7:23PM
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Joey:  I'd love to see your track list for an abridged Goblin once you've digested it.  It sounds like he's a voice that needs to be heard.
May 12, 2011 4:43PM
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My favorite Anthony Lane line was from his review of Phantom Of The Opera, something about being confronted at the very start by "words so ominous they might have been written in my own blood: Screenplay By Joel Schumacher and Andrew Lloyd Webber".
May 12, 2011 4:25PM
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Yeah, I have followed Edelstein since then, too. Kept hoping The New Yorker would scoop him up after Kael retired, but they went with the insufferable Denby instead. (Anthony Lane is at least witty.)

May 12, 2011 3:58PM
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Jeff - I agree completely with your statement about Edelstein.  I have great memories of him working for the Voice in the Eighties, where he reviewed the more mainstream movies and provided a nice balance to Hoberman.  It is the only time I can think of them hiring a someone who could be accused of being a Paulette.
May 12, 2011 3:43PM
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New York's website is better than its magazine, but give them credit too for having the good sense to hire David Edelstein, America's most astute (and least cynical) film critic.
May 12, 2011 2:46PM
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Thanks to Bob, by the way, for boosting Nitsuh Abebe -- he certainly is doing some of the best stuff out there right now.

New York magazine deserves a handshake for hiring him. And then a kick in the crotch for being the cynical hellhole of pop criticism for so many ages, as Bob noted. The real bad side of being a cynical publication is that your readership grows cynical, too. I would never have read another piece of pop-music writing in the rag if I hadn't gotten a heads-up.
May 12, 2011 2:44PM
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"As someone who's still all aboard the "Yonkers" train (I can honestly see me calling it my song of the year come December), Goblin is the most frustrating album ever.  It's not outright bad.  It definitely has bad moments!  But it's got so many good moments!  So many good ideas."

I wouldn't say there's *that* many. "Her" is affecting in its self-absorbed teen way. "Yonkers" and "Tron Cat" almost approach mid-period Eminem's command of paradoxes. Part of my problem is that he has many other opportunities to formulate paradoxes that he doesn't take.

The hyped album of the moment I'm having trouble letting go of is The Weeknd. Playing random tracks again to refamiliarize myself after watching the gorgeous/unsettling "What You Need" video, one of the tracks I liked originally, I just got 2/3 of the way into "The Party and the Afterparty" which gets very strange tonally:

SHE'LL PROBABLY O.D. BEFORE I SHOW HER TO MAMA
ALL THESE GIRLS TRYING TO TELL ME SHE GOT NO LOVE
AND ALL THESE GIRLS NEVER EVER GOT A BL0WJ0B
GOT HER RINGTONE ON SILENT
IF SHE STOPS THEN I MIGHT GET VIOLENT

It's so much more unsettling and arresting than the Tyler because I genuinely wasn't expecting casual bl0wj0b violence to be dropped in at minute six of this supple R&B melody, whereas with Goblin I feel like I'm sitting in the principal's office waiting for his shenanigans to impress me. I usually prefer obvious jokes, but where are Tyler's obvious jokes? I hear things that I assume made *him* laugh. And I'm not that impressed by his refusal to write for an audience; rappers have been "not giving a fk" for years and most of them haven't whined about critics half as much on their first commercially-released album.

May 12, 2011 2:26PM
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STB - P:

 

I'll research this more and give you an answer.  I recall difficulty finding Fats Domino "The Legendary Masters Series" and George Jones "White Lightning",  as these were both UK-only and out-of-print.  But I eventually found these on UK internet sites.

 

May 12, 2011 2:18PM
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More on the Tyler pile-on:

Nitsuh:  http://goo.gl/IPNLp

Alex Mcpherson (who claims homophobia in rap may be at a tipping point):
http://goo.gl/COqxH

Ann Powers:  http://goo.gl/YRMc8

Mike Barthel for the defense:  http://goo.gl/irljQ

Frannie Kelly, also for the defense:  http://goo.gl/h29d5

An absolutely exhaustive and exhausting ilm thread which, amazingly, stays civil:
http://goo.gl/Wypnd


May 12, 2011 2:11PM
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And for Joe Y. and anyone interested:

 

18 King Size Country Hits (Columbia CL-2668 / CS-9468, Re-channelled Stereo)

 

Side 1

 

"Signed, Sealed, and Delivered" - Cowboy Copas

"I'll Sail My Ship Alone" - Moon Mullican

"It's Raining Here this Morning" - Grandpa Jones

"Rainbow at Midnight" - Carlisle Brothers

"Seven Lonely Days" - Bonnie Lou

"Why Don't You Haul Off and Love Me" - Wayne Raney

"Death of Little Kathy Fiscus" - Jimmy Osborne

"Blues, Stay Away from Me" - Delmore Brothers

"Slow Poke" - Hankshaw Hawkins

 

Side 2

 

"Tennessee Waltz" - Cowboy Copas

"Sweeter than the Flowers" - Moon Mullican

"Mountain Dew" - Grandpa Jones

"I'm the Talk of the Town" - Don Reno & Red Smiley

"Next Sunday Darling is my Birthday" - Clyde Moody

"Lonesome 7-7203" - Hankshaw Hawkins

"Death of Hank Williams" - Jack Cardwell

"How Far to Little Rock" - Stanley Brothers

"Money, Marbles, and Chalk" - Pop Eckler

 

 

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I think I now own every recommended item in the back-of-the-book lists.

Dude!

 

Which were the hardest ones to get?

May 12, 2011 2:10PM
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I implore you to, at the very least, listen to the three something minute song that even his detractors seem to love.

Not sure how much my endorsement counts to you, but yeah.

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May 12, 2011 1:57PM
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Another Tyler the Creator write-up burraburrahttp://www.slate.com/id/2293851/checkit out that does nothing to persuade me I should check him out. Too much other stuff, even more-cathartic anger, to absorb.
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Starting in 1967, Robert Christgau has covered popular music for The Village Voice, Esquire, Blender, Playboy, Rolling Stone, and many other publications. He teaches in New York University's Clive Davis Department of Recorded Music, maintains a comprehensive website at robertchristgau.com, and has published five books based on his journalism. He has written for MSN Music since 2006.

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