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Pazz & Jop Comments 2011

By Xgau Jan 20, 2012 6:04AM

St. Vincent: Strange Mercy (4AD)

Adele and Gaga watch your backs, lest she take art-rock pop ("Cheerleader," "Dilettante," "Cruel") ***

 

The Weeknd: House of Balloons (XO download)

If coming leaves your penis feeling that bad, fella, remember that they're not called narcotics for nothing ("Wicked Games," "House of Balloons/Glass Table Girls") ***

 

Adele: 21 (XL/Columbia)

Part of me likes how many albums this proud white-soul normal has sold, but the part that likes fast ones wins ("Rolling in the Deep," "Rumour Has It") **

 

Drake: Take Care (Cash Money/Universal Republic)

Musical docudrama proves conclusively that having too much money is bad for you, so how come no one gets the point? ("Make Me Proud," "Headlines") **

 

Girls: Record 3: Father, Son, Holy Ghost (True Panther/Fantasy Trashcan)

Phil Spector overstated his feelings too, and look where it got him ("Honey Bunny," "Magic") **


Wye Oak: Civilian (Merge)

Rising into exultation, fading into doubt ("Holy Holy," "Civilian") **

 

Fleet Foxes: Helplessness Blues (Sub Pop)

Darker and more socially conscious than their escapist admirers or their ideological detractors are equipped to notice ("Helplessness Blues," "Someone You Admire") *

 

The Black Keys: El Camino (Nonesuch)

With advice from Master of All Soundscapes Danger Mouse, they construct a loud blooze-rawk one, complete with song outlines ("Lonely Boy," "Run Right Back") *


 

292Comments
Jan 23, 2012 3:44PM
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I'm sure if I write long enough, eventually someone will quote something dumb I said. 
Resisting urge to paste the usually astute Tatum's review of House of Balloons only because I still owe him for Cartagena! (Maybe F-cked Up too, or was that Joey?)
Jan 23, 2012 3:39PM
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Joey -- I wasn't really defending Christgau so much as preparing you for your future vocation.  Also, there is a difference between comforting someone you know because they're hurting (i.e. being empathetic) and pointing out the lameness of what someone says in print. 

 

Also, if person x says person y hurt them in print, person x gave them power to do so, no matter how awesome a public figure person y is.  Bottom line.

Jan 23, 2012 3:33PM
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Critics dish it out; they should be able to take it.  I myself have quoted annoying things I've found in print.
My point is not this.  I am not saying "everyone play nice."  I am not saying that critics should not be critical of each other's points.  But casual fans, blog posters, and Real Mother****in' Music Critics all hang on the guy with varying levels of intensity.  I'm not saying he's doing a poor job!  After all, I can't imagine how tough it is to walk the walk and to talk that talk appropriately.  My post should not come off as an indictment of Xgau, but an expression of empathy that's not unhealthy to have in mind.  Wouldn't ya say?  With great power etc. etc. etc.
Jan 23, 2012 3:26PM
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Tom Hull -

 

I noticed that on the Xgau website you have Destroyer's Kaputt as an Aminus.  The EW review gave it a B+ so I'm sure that's just a typo.


Also - the EW reviews for Talk That Talk and Watch the Throne were for the Deluxe Edition versions of those albums.  (Talk That Talk specifically stated as such while Watch the Throne's preference for deluxe was implicit in the review I've been told.)   So you may want to note Deluxe Edition on the website for clarification.

Jan 23, 2012 3:13PM
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Regarding Joey's comments about Hyden/Beck.

 

Critics dish it out; they should be able to take it.  I myself have quoted annoying things I've found in print.  When apropos, I've said something like "the normally astute John Doe said..." (which is what I did when Jody Rosen claimed a Jamey Johnson track reminded him of Steve Wonder) and sometimes I won't pull any punches when I think the writer is a tool (the Pitchfork crew).  I'm sure if I write long enough, eventually someone will quote something dumb I said.  Sometimes they'll say I'm usually pretty smart; sometimes they'll say I'm a complete moron.  Kind of like life, actually.  Ain't no big thing -- I'd rather put my thoughts out there for people to judge rather than not at all.

Jan 23, 2012 2:56PM
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About half the songs on Bat Chain Puller are the same as Shiny Beast. The arrangements are uncannily identical. The playing is less sprung. (By a long shot.) And the recording is flat. 
Jan 23, 2012 2:40PM
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Sure, comedy can be great art as can film, fiction, etc.  To me, the point would be is Louis K pazz or jop.  Isn't that the criteria for the list?

 

In addition to agreeing that Richard Pryor and Bob Newhart records were a riot, I'd point out that Negativland's Helter Stupid sounded a lot like a Firesign Theater record, at least as far as I remember it.  The difference is the former's presented as music and the later as comedy; pazz and/or jop as opposed to not pazz and/or jop.

 

Matos' vote would seem to be some sort of "protest vote" and, if so, not a terribly eloquent one at that.

 

Change of subject: what's the difference between Zappa's Bat Chain Puller over the one the Capt. released?  Is is that different or even better?  (I've yet to hear something that Zappa ever made better...)

Jan 23, 2012 2:24PM
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One of my favorite New Years' ever ('07 into '08) was spent driving around listening to That ****'s Crazy, which easily merits a top 10 spot in any 1974 list. None of the other Pryors are half that uncannily good, and as uncannily good goes it sure beats The Godfather Part II (not to mention Fulfillingness' First Finale, which I guess took top Rock Oscar honors that year).

And let it not go unmentioned that Our Dean effectively slotted a comedy album at #1 this time around, even if there's "real music" with which to justify the r&r designation.
Jan 23, 2012 2:02PM
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I have no problem with including a comedy album on a year-end list. Spoken word and comedy records can be part of popular culture, and comedy records were huge sellers in the early years of LPs. A clever DJ recently played a track about Xmas presents and male toupees that reminded me how amusing Bob Newhart can sound on the radio.

But for me, that's the snag -- I think comedy recordings work better as a judiciously applied spice on radio than they do as part of a home soundtrack. (Indeed, if you play comedy albums daily at your place you can stand way, way -- way, way -- over there and I'll just stay here.) There is a select set of comedy albums, esp. ones with much music, that belong near the front room of the front hall. Still, how often will they get played? And that's an important factor in Best of the Year.

Jan 23, 2012 1:30PM
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I know Zappa's reason for never releasing the original Bat Chain Puller was because he thought the music was not up to par for the Captain, but it always sounded like bs.
The Beefheart crew always made it out that Zappa was just being cruel. But I hope that what they release is better than the bootleg version of Bat Chain Puller that's floated around forever, because I'm never driven to listen to that version.

Now, I'll tell you what I am excited about. Maggie and Terre Roche's Seductive Reasoning gets a CD release tomorrow. That's a piece of vinyl that's had staying power for me through the years. 
Jan 23, 2012 1:26PM
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The posthumous Zappa albums are always over-priced. So expensive that I've never bought one yet. I know Zappa's reason for never releasing the original Bat Chain Puller was because he thought the music was not up to par for the Captain, but it always sounded like bs.

Jan 23, 2012 12:36PM
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Hairy Irene's name reminded me that I heard about a release of the original Bat Chain Puller from the Zappa Family Trust - just looked it up and it's available for pre-order (20 bucks??)  At that price I'll have to compare the tracklist when it is provided with the unofficial one I already have.

Jan 23, 2012 12:13PM
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Just read that piece and it was pretty painful - went for too much.  If there's an easier target than Pitchfork, it's "indie" music in general and its followers.  The overused "cultural capital" does sound like something from a sociology thesis. 

 

He should have at least cited Lady Gaga - as her whole stage concept personifies the paradox of being overtly materialist and image oriented while defacing it (blood all over a $20,000 dress, etc), and taking yourself very seriously while being really, really stupid. 

 

Jan 23, 2012 12:10PM
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To call something music isn't to restrict it to being just that so much as viewing it critically through a specific lens.  There are musical aspects inherent to stand-up, speech-giving, date-asking, argument-having, etc. etc. etc.  Rhythm, melody, improvisation, etc. etc. etc. are all part of delivering a stand-up routine.  Would I call Louis CK's Hilarious "music?"  Probably not, but someone looking at it the way I suggest might have use in referring to it that way.  It's a silly rabbit hole to go down, but I think it maintains a logical definition of what musicality means.  Therefore, Matos' inclusion doesn't strike me as outrageous in the least.
Jan 23, 2012 12:03PM
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Michaelangelo Matos logged Louis CK's Hilarious second on his P&J ballot. 

Valid choice? Stupidity? What if enough people did that and a stand-up comic landed the top spot? How embarrassing would that be? 

I think it's a bad move. Joey disagrees.
Jan 23, 2012 11:51AM
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New Leonard is s-l-o-w front to back. (Ask me if I give a damn.)
Jan 23, 2012 11:21AM
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Thank god for digital music is all I can say.
Ever have that horrifying moment when you plugged in an external hard drive and found no possibility of it mounting?

D:
Jan 23, 2012 11:14AM
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Ever have that horrifying moment when you opened a CD case and found no CD?

That moment is no longer horrifying to me because putting things where they don't go is my default mode of operation. :-/ Thank god for digital music is all I can say.

Jan 23, 2012 11:04AM
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Joey, I know it's different because I'm not a pro, but if I ever started worrying about what Xgau thought of my postings I doubt I'd ever do more than lurk here.
Oh, absolutely.  That's important to post here with any level of frequency or comfort.  If I didn't feel like I could do this as casually as I do, I'd lose interest.
Jan 23, 2012 11:02AM
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Ever have that horrifying moment when you opened a CD case and found no CD?  I did that this weekend with Jorge Ben's Africa Brasil.  Figured it was at the office, but car problems kept me stranded at home until Monday morning, so I had to live with the dreaded 'what if...?'  Fortunately, it was there (and I was able to avoid the mindnumbing routine of opening every single bleeping CD I have to see if I had put it in the wrong case), but I do have a couple CDs which I've still never found.  Grrr.
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Robert Christgau

Starting in 1967, Robert Christgau has covered popular music for The Village Voice, Esquire, Blender, Playboy, Rolling Stone, and many other publications. He teaches in New York University's Clive Davis Department of Recorded Music, maintains a comprehensive website at robertchristgau.com, and has published five books based on his journalism. He has written for MSN Music since 2006.

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