Axl Rose: I'm not coming, so don't induct me
GNR singer will be a no-show at Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Speculation has been rampant among fans whether Rose would show for Saturday's induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland -- and was even more feverish about whether he'd deign to perform with his new bandmates, his old bandmates or both.
The answer: Neither. Rose released an "open letter" Wednesday in which he not only declined to attend, he asked that his name be withdrawn and not inducted, even though he's the only one out there touring under the Guns N' Roses moniker anymore. Green Day is scheduled to induct the band - Rose included anyhow - in Saturday's ceremony.
Everyone figured a performance wasn't in the cards -- Rose has been estranged from his former bandmates for nearly two decades, and guitarist Slash has already gone on record saying he'd love to reunite but knew it wouldn't happen. But in his open letter sent to the Los Angeles Times and later posted on Facebook and his official website, Rose went far beyond that. Some highlights:
...no offense meant to anyone but the Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony doesn't appear to be somewhere I'm actually wanted or respected.
...I won't be attending The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction 2012 Ceremony and I respectfully decline my induction as a member of Guns N' Roses to the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.
...all things considered, appears to be a no win, at least for me, "damned if I do, damned if I don't" scenario all the way around.
...Time to move on. People get divorced. Life doesn't owe you your own personal happy ending especially at another's, or in this case several others', expense.
So much for having "Patience."
The Associated Press reported that the Hall of Fame will go ahead and induct the band anyway, Rose included. In the past artists have refused to show up, most famously the Sex Pistols and Van Morrison, both of whom were inducted in absentia. Rose appears to be the first artist to attempt to refuse the honor outright.
The Hall may not have had much to say, but fans sure did. At the band’s official Facebook page, some fans were delighted at Rose’s middle finger to the Rock Hall, but far more were outraged.
"leave the guy alone, it is his right to do whatever he wants to do."
"Intelligent, articulate, concise, respectful and very human... Well done!!!! Now leave the man be and let him breathe."
"That man stuck up for what he believes in, you should support him, not mock him."
"Love him or hate him....when it comes down to it, Axl Rose don't owe us (expletive)."
"(expletive) Axl for doing what he did. 50 years old and he can't grow up. Really?"
"what a self absorbed bastard!!!!!!!!"
"Why am I not surprised...just like in 1992 in Montreal, Axl still concerned with himself. Yeah, you know what i'm talking about you selfish (expletive)!"
"For over 7 years a reunion show was all I wanted... Now...my dreams have been crushed."
"(expletive) you Axl! Your band sucks! You must love pissing off the fans...and your so good at it."
"What a self centered cry baby egomaniac sniveling lil sissy!! Punk. Can't sing a few songs with the guys he made it to the hall with or even attend. Who acts like this, and at his age?? Grow up and get over yourself"
"aww heck, Slash, Izzy, Duff, and Steven can put on a good show without this fat, botox-faced, wig-wearin' (expletive)!"
"This is as much of a disappointment as Chinese Democracy..."
The full text of Rose's letter is below:
To: The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, Guns N' Roses Fans and Whom It May Concern,
When the nominations for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame were first announced I had mixed emotions but, in an effort to be positive, wanting to make the most of things for the fans and with their enthusiasm, I was honored, excited and hoped that somehow this would be a good thing. Of course I realized as things stood, if Guns N' Roses were to be inducted it'd be somewhat of a complicated or awkward situation.
Since then we've listened to fans, talked with members of the board of the Hall Of Fame, communicated with and read various public comments and jabs from former members of Guns N' Roses, had discussions with the president of the Hall Of Fame, read various press (some legit, some contrived) and read other artists' comments weighing in publicly on Guns and the Hall with their thoughts.
Under the circumstances I feel we've been polite, courteous, and open to an amicable solution in our efforts to work something out. Taking into consideration the history of Guns N' Roses, those who plan to attend along with those the Hall for reasons of their own, have chosen to include in "our" induction (that for the record are decisions I don't agree with, support or feel the Hall has any right to make), and how (albeit no easy task) those involved with the Hall have handled things... no offense meant to anyone but the Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony doesn't appear to be somewhere I'm actually wanted or respected.
For the record, I would not begrudge anyone from Guns their accomplishments or recognition for such. Neither I or anyone in my camp has made any requests or demands of the Hall Of Fame. It's their show not mine.
That said, I won't be attending The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction 2012 Ceremony and I respectfully decline my induction as a member of Guns N' Roses to the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.
I strongly request that I not be inducted in absentia and please know that no one is authorized nor may anyone be permitted to accept any induction for me or speak on my behalf. Neither former members, label representatives nor the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame should imply whether directly, indirectly or by omission that I am included in any purported induction of "Guns N' Roses".
This decision is personal. This letter is to help clarify things from my and my camp's perspective. Neither is meant to offend, attack or condemn. Though unfortunately I'm sure there will be those who take offense (God knows how long I'll have to contend with the fallout), I certainly don't intend to disappoint anyone, especially the fans, with this decision. Since the announcement of the nomination we've actively sought out a solution to what, with all things considered, appears to be a no win, at least for me, "damned if I do, damned if I don't" scenario all the way around.
In regard to a reunion of any kind of either the Appetite or Illusion lineups, I've publicly made myself more than clear. Nothing's changed.
The only reason, at this point, under the circumstances, in my opinion whether under the guise of "for the fans" or whatever justification of the moment, for anyone to continue to ask, suggest or demand a reunion are misguided attempts to distract from our efforts with our current lineup of myself, Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson, Frank Ferrer, Richard Fortus, Chris Pitman, Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal and DJ Ashba.
Izzy came out with us a few times back in '06 and I invited him to join us at our LA Forum show last year. Steven was at our show at the Hard Rock, later in '06 in Las Vegas, where I invited him to our after-party and was rewarded with his subsequent interviews filled with reunion lies. Lesson learned. Duff joined us in 2010 and again in '11 along with his band, Loaded, opening in Seattle and Vancouver. For me, with the exception of Izzy or Duff joining us on stage if they were so inclined somewhere in the future for a song or two, that's enough.
There's a seemingly endless amount of revisionism and fantasies out there for the sake of self-promotion and business opportunities masking the actual realities. Until every single one of those generating from or originating with the earlier lineups has been brought out in the light, there isn't room to consider a conversation let alone a reunion.
Maybe if it were you it'd be different. Maybe you'd do it for this reason or that. Peace, whatever. I love our band now. We're there for each other when the going get's rough. We love our fans and work to give them every ounce of energy and heart we can.
So let sleeping dogs lie or lying dogs sleep or whatever. Time to move on. People get divorced. Life doesn't owe you your own personal happy ending especially at another's, or in this case several others', expense.
But hey if ya gotta then maybe we can get the "no show, grandstanding, publicity stunt, disrespectful, he doesn't care about the fans" crap out of the way as quickly as we can and let's move on. No one's taking the ball and going home. Don't get it twisted. For more than a decade and a half we've endured the double standards, the greed of this industry and the ever present seemingly limitless supply of wannabes and unscrupulous, irresponsible media types. Not to imply anything in this particular circumstance, but from my perspective in regard to both the Hall and a reunion, the ball's never been in our court.
In closing, regardless of this decision and as hard to believe or as ironic as it may seem, I'd like to sincerely thank the board for their nomination and their votes for Guns' induction. More importantly I'd like to thank the fans for being there over the years, making any success we've had possible and for enjoying and supporting Guns N' Roses music.
I wish the Hall a great show, congratulations to all the other artists being inducted and to our fans we look forward to seeing you on tour!!
P.S. RIP Armand, Long Live ABC III
hey the hall of fame isn't any different than the oscars. if mr. rose doesn't want to participate, more power to him. however, it's ashame that all the stuff goes on that we fans don't understand and that musicians can't deliver their music in peace. Guns is and will always be a great part of rock history. peace to all.
That's a riot, porktaco!!!
Some of these A holes who have screamed into a mike for a living Take them selfs way to serious. Your just another bag a bones who can keep a beat. a little luck did'nt hurt either.
The HOF has been more about being Jann Wenner's personal playlist than being about the music. So many below have listed great bands that should be in the HOF, but are not. jt11200 and jcbozark listed a lot of great singers and bands that SHOULD be in, but are not. I'd like to add Joy Division and The Cure to those lists.
As far as Axl and his choice to not be inducted....it's his choice. But then Axl, don't come whining down the road about not being inducted along with the GN'R lineup from Appetite or Illusion.
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