CBS scores Chuck Lorre 'Mom' comedy

The big bang theory is awesome but tahm lost it for me when charlie left and they didn't give the show to jon. I find Ashton irritating 

If Charlie is not in the new show I'm not watching it.
As I quit watching 2 1/2 men since he left.

I agree with Michael Rodot, the Jake storylines/oneliners​ were funny when he was younger, and could pull off the stupid bit with a little bit of charm, but as he grew older it just became sad. Regardless of what his personal views are and his half-hearted apology, there really isn't anywhere to go with his character with the show. And I also agree with the person who says it's raunchy and at times pathetic. Humor is a fickle thing. A show can be raunchy yet funny, if done correctly, but when it's done for the sake of raunchiness it seems desperate and pathetic. Regardless of who's side you are on in the Sheen/Lorre battle, Charlie Sheen was the show (and John Cryer was great in the beginning but now they have made him so pathetic it's almost unwatchable. HIs job would not leave him so broke, even with child support. though that should be over with now too, so where is all his money going now?) the writers seem to go through phases where they just have no clue what to do with the show. Alan was getting better and more believable as a person, choosing to be Walden's friend as opposed to a leech. But next expisode no one likes him again. And the relationships they have on the show are crap. They go nowhere and they do not add to the story or the humor. Regardless though who was at fault with Charlie's meltdown...the show should have ended there. Gracefully. Now it's just crude and unfunny, with occassional bouts of humanity and humor. And I never could get into Mike and Molly so hopefully big bang will keep going strong. as for the new show, sounds like something Bret Butler should have done, or already did. I'll give it a fair shake though.

TAHM was getting tired before Charlie left.  His character was growing some with his engagement but then he backtracked into the same sorry womanizer.  Alan is unbelievable - a chiropractor who can't afford to live on his own?  A woman down the street from me is a divorced single mom chiropractor with a nice home.  I thought the retool started out well but now it is raunchy & toilet humor.

 

I do like the Big Bang Theory.  It's characters have developed and it only has a fraction of the raunch.  You can be funny without always being in the gutter.

What are they gonna do to kill off Angus's character. I don't see how they can spin the death of a child and make it funny .
 The kid is right too. The show has become a raunch fest. I'm not a prude I' love comics that can work blue, when it's done well. 2 & 1/2 just seems to feel so contrived and kind of pathetic. Everything seems to be telegraphed. Oops showing my age!

Screw lorre...i will never watch anything he has anything to do with or for that matter , CBS again!

I have never watched "Mike and Molly" or "The Big Bang Theory" but I did watch "Men" before Charlie left. I would love to see Jake move to Charlie's new show, last year "Anger" had some kinks to work out but it was getting there..